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Eating the world and ourselves

CATEGORY / Trade TAGS / AGRICULTURE, eating habits, red meat, veganism, vegetarianism AUTHOR / Tio DATE / 21/04/2015

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Author: Tio

Eating is something that we have to do for both energy and mass.  No eat - no life; it’s as simple as that.

But what do we eat?

I, for instance, eat all sorts of things: sea creatures, land creatures (it sounds like I’m a monster, but most of us do this), stuff of many colors that grow out of the ground, and other stuff that I don't know where it comes from or what it’s made of, like sweets.  But you also get ‘good’ and ‘necessary’ stuff from liquids.

So: chocolate, steak, juice, bananas, soup, cheese, and so on, are all ‘stuff’ that we chew, lick, drink, dissolve, and then swallow.  This mix then moves to our stomachs, where the chain of ‘magic’ reactions starts providing us with renewed matter (tissue) and energy, although Einstein showed us that both are the same.  😉

These ‘things’ that we eat can be categorized by their specific properties and that gives rise to specific production technologies.  For instance, if you eat colored stuff typically from the ground (vegetables or fruits), you mainly only need fertile ‘ground’ and the ‘seeds’ for the stuff you want to grow, plus taking care of these ‘things’ (soil, water, sunlight, etc.).  If you want to eat creatures, then you need to grow the creatures (on land or in water), which takes a lot more time.  You also need to feed them great quantities of food, keep them healthy, deal with the waste they produce, and so on.  When it comes to mass producing any these ‘things’, one of these major food categories requires a huge amount of resources and energy, and that, coupled with today’s money-based-profit world, seems to have a major backlash on us, our lives and the environment.  I am talking about the creatures that we eat; mainly cattle, pigs and chickens.  We call them livestock.

Most people in the world eat the skin, flesh, and some other parts of these creatures, plus some of the ‘things’ they produce, such as eggs or milk.  These ‘parts’ can be found on most of our plates on a daily basis.

I will try to exemplify the huge amount of resources that consuming these creatures requires; how the monetary motive behind this world-wide consumption pushes many side effects such as major contributions to climate change, deforestation and land use; and how consuming these creatures may have negative impacts on our health - all of that in a situation in which there are plenty of more efficient alternatives, both in how we produce the creatures (or the ‘parts’ of them that we consume), and in how we could simply replace them with other food sources.

Why Eat Creatures?

I come from a tribe (country) where slaughtering a pig for Christmas and eating parts of it, even ‘on the spot’, is something of a national tradition, a pleasant time, full of joy and relaxation.  It may be difficult for many people who did not grow up within this kind of lifestyle to understand how cutting a pig’s throat, letting it bleed to death, and then ‘cooking’ it right away and eating it (many times the elders would cut the skin from the freshly dead pig and give it to children and we’d eat it with salt and it was very good) is regarded as a good Christmas day for some.  The scream of a slaughtered pig means terror for some and food for others.  This shows that human behavior is created by each person’s environment, and where one may see disgust and fear, another may see delicious food and good times.

The option of eating meat is not only a cultural preference, but is also a choice influenced by money, since one may not be able to afford to acquire his/her own food requirements without meat consumption.  On the other hand, much of it is also due to lack of knowledge.  Many may not be aware that one can live very well without eating meat or other animal products, or all of the options that exist out there.

Therefore, most of us eat meat and other animal products because of culture and tradition (habit), and because, even if we don’t want to, maybe we cannot afford to seek out other alternatives, whether the reasons are financial or otherwise (land use, for example).

Due to ignorance (lack of knowledge or motivation), many don’t bother to question what they eat, while some may even wonder what is so damn special about this decision.  But once you take into account all of the events that are triggered by mass creature-consumption around the world (as we will show you), maybe you will understand why such questions are very important.

Creatures are complicated ‘entities’ that require a lot of care, land use, and protection against diseases to raise, slaughter, package, transport, store, and eat them.

Land Use and Deforestation

In order to grow enough creatures to satisfy current demand, which is a direct result of the consumer-based monetary world that we live in, we need lots and lots of space, because creatures eat, poop, fart (you will be surprised how important that is), and need some space to move, and breath.  Even more to the point, you also need space to grow all of the food needed by the ‘beasts’.

The main creatures that humans eat are chickens, cattle and pigs.  Currently being ‘grown’ around the world, there are about: 19 billion chickens, 1.4 billion cattle, 1 billion pigs.

They are being grown specifically for human consumption.(source)

Although livestock producers have tried to squeeze more and more of these creatures into more and more tiny spaces, triggering mass outrage among many people who say that treating other beings this way is inhumane, the overall land requirements is still huge.  So huge that most of all of the land used for agriculture is reserved for raising and feeding these creatures.  To help you visualize more clearly just how much land that is, the raising of livestock currently ‘claims’ 30% of all of the available land on Earth, which includes about 33% of the planet’s arable land devoted to growing food for these animals (domesticated animals raised in an agricultural setting to produce commodities such as food, fiber and labor).(source)  Remember that the surface of the planet is full of mountains, hills, deserts, forests, and other land that is not suitable for raising livestock or their food.  Considering that, the space that livestock ‘consumes’ adds up to quite a lot of land.

Speaking of forests, 70% of previously forested area in the Amazon basin is now occupied by pastures, and the remainder used for feed crops.(source)  To put this in perspective, from 1991 to 2000, an area of about the entire size of Spain was deforested.  Imagine Spain viewed from space, all green and full of trees (and other plants and animals), and in just 10 short years, all of that gone.  For the past 26 years, an area equivalent to The Bahamas (consisting of 700 islands) was lost every year due to livestock deforestation.(source)  It is estimated that in 20 years the total Amazon forest will be reduced by 40%.

It’s true that deforestation has decreased overall in recent years, but messing with forest ecosystems, especially at such large scales, is not something we should be playing with.  

In our Earth book we highlight how connected we are with the environment (in a scientific way), and how trees affect the atmosphere, the atmosphere affects people, and how all creatures and plants are interconnected. More than that we also show how creatures and places offer us not only inspiration for developing science and technologies, but also protection for preserving the delicate balance that we all depend upon.

Forests are responsible for 28% of all of Earth’s oxygen content and are also considered one of the world’s largest storage banks for all of the carbon emitted into the atmosphere through natural processes and human activities.  As you cut down forests, you are not only reducing the oxygen production and the capacity for CO2 absorption, but also releasing their stored CO2.  Trees also absorb water from the soil and release it back into the atmosphere, so less trees means a drier atmosphere, which then means that we are causing conditions that are not favorable to the growth of rainforests around the world, or the massive biodiversity within them.

More than that, consider all that lives in forests - billions of species of animals and plants (80% of the worlds biomass).  When you cut down forests, you kill many creatures or endanger their survival.  And the extinction of one species always causes a chain reaction by the endangering of another one, highlighting yet another destabilization of the global ‘natural’ system.

Imagine a cute fluffy-white-sparkly-shiny ball of cells that is a creature.  It makes sounds, emits heat, and moves.  That is a species: a unique set of characteristics that an animal/insect/plant exhibits.  There are thousands of such unique creatures (with legs and hands, eyes and spines, interesting biology and fascinating morphology) that are lost every single year due to deforestation.  For a more detailed list of the effects of deforestation, visit our friend Wikipedia.

Waste, Inefficiency and Climate Change

To raise and manage creatures for food production requires a lot of fresh water and food, both of which can be considered as waste if we agree that there are better methods of creating and distributing food.  You need fresh water for both the creature’s food and the creature itself, but also for dairy operations, other on-farm needs, plus the fresh water used in the production/management of the food that we make from these creatures: milk, meat, eggs, etc.(source)

For those who choose to consume it, think about the bacon on your plate.  To get to you, it first needs to be a living pig that is fed, occupies land, consumes water and food, and even emits gases (farts, poop); Methane to be more precise, which is a very powerful greenhouse gas.  Combine several farts per day, per animal, over billions of pigs, cattle, sheep or other animals that exist solely for human consumption (most of them would not exist otherwise), and that sure makes for one hell of a fart.  Actually, this level of gas emission is taken very seriously, as it equates to 2.5% of all human-made greenhouse gasses emitted by the US tribe alone.  Also, do not forget that the food the pig eats is also taking space and consuming water.  Plus the raising of the feed crops, the transportation of this food to the pig, the pig to slaughter, it’s packaging and transportation of the meat to other places, the preparation of meat, and in the end, the transformed meat being transported to supermarkets.  That is finally capped of with your drive to the market, the refrigeration units that keep it ‘safe to eat’ before you buy it, the trip back home, and then your own refrigeration until you’re ready to cook and eat it.

Thus, it takes all of that (and more, of course) just to create some ‘bacon’ on your plate, and this is just one of the many products that are made out of such creatures.

There are so many tribes in the world that, in order to provide so much ‘food made of creatures’ to all of the tribals, the tribes engage in a ‘dance’ of exchanges and mutual advantages.  One tribe may have the land to raise the food for the creatures, while another tribe has the means to raise the creatures and has to import the food for them, and yet another one has no such means and needs to import the food eventually made out of these creatures.  This ‘dance’ of exchange around the world consumes a lot of energy and produces a lot of additional greenhouse gasses.(source)

Greenhouse gas emissions from agriculture, including crop and livestock production, forestry and associated land-use changes, are responsible for a significant portion of human-induced emissions – about 20-24 percent globally.  It is estimated that agricultural production will have to increase another 60 percent by 2050 to satisfy the expected demands for food and livestock feed, if current trends continue.  This is projected to lead to a 30 percent increase in greenhouse gas emissions just from the animal agricultural sector alone.(source)

The creatures that we rely upon the most for producing food are also quite inefficient as foods.

To produce 1kg (2.2 pounds) of meat requires:

CHICKEN:

  • 3546 litres of water (937 gallons)
  • 2.5 kg of food (5.5 pounds)

PORK:

  • 4364 litres of water (1152 gallons)
  • 5 kg of food (11 pounds)

BEEF:

  • 13620 litres of water (3598 gallons)
  • 10 kg of food (22 pounds)

BUGS:

  • 13 liters of water (3.4 gallons)
  • 1.7 kg of food (3.7 pounds)

The percentage of the animal that is edible:  Chicken 55%, Pork 55%, Beef 40%, Bugs 80%

The amount of water other foods need to produce 1kg of food:

CORN: liters of water (216 gallons)

POTATOES: 900 liters of water (238 gallons)

RICE: 3400 liters of water (898 gallons)

APPLE JUICE (1 liter - 0.26 gallons): 950 liters of water (250 gallons)

CHEESE: 4546 liters of water (1200 gallons)

CHOCOLATE: 24000 liters of water (6340 gallons)

BREAD: 80 liters (21 gallons)

(source 1, 2, 3)

Health Concerns

Although health concerns seem to be the main reason why many avoid eating creatures, the science is not at all exact when it comes to causality.  First of all, creatures come in all shapes and forms and often have multiple parts that people eat, and those parts can have varying impacts on one’s health.  It also depends on the individual's genetic makeup and lifestyle: smoking, exercise, what other things one eats and in what quantities and frequency, etc..

To give you an example how hard it is to even relate all of this, let alone to find specific causality, take a look at some big studies focusing on just one edible ‘part’ of creatures: red meat.

For 12 years, half a million people between the ages of 35 and 69 were part of a study looking at the effects of red or processed meat on health.  The subjects were carefully tested for various diseases and risks, while their lifestyles were placed ‘under the microscope’ for tracking habits such as smoking and physical exercise.  Over the course of the study, over 25 thousand deaths were observed, while they concluded that around 3.3% of those deaths could have been prevented if red meat consumption were lower among those participants.  Also, a strong correlation was identified between processed meat consumption and cardiovascular diseases, cancer, and ‘other causes of death’.

Their conclusion: “The results of our analysis support a moderate positive association between processed meat consumption and mortality, in particular due to cardiovascular diseases, but also to cancer.” You can read the entire study here.

Red meat (a type of flesh) appears red because it contains a substance called ‘haem’.  Since separate studies had shown that other types of meat (poultry or fish-based ‘white meat’) do not show any significant correlation between consumption and health issues, they isolated this ‘haem’ as ‘the suspect’, and added it to the food of several hundred lab rats.  They observed that the rats who ate food with ‘haem’ had an increase in promotion of tumor growth, similar to if they had been fed beef steak.  Full study here.

But, of course, it’s not at all that simple.  There are some studies suggesting that eating a small amount of meat is healthier than not eating any meat at all, while other studies suggest the opposite.

To help exemplify this, over 17 thousand people took part in a similar experiment from 1986 to 2010, testing the effects of many types of meat on human health.  Throughout the course of the study, 3683 deaths occurred, but none of them were linked to the consumption of any kind of meat.(source)

A collective summary of twenty relevant studies conducted with 1,218,380 individuals from 10 countries across four continents (North America, Europe, Australia, and Asia) found that only ‘processed’ meat (meat preserved by smoking, curing or salting, or those with the addition of chemical preservatives, such as bacon, salami, sausages, hot dogs or processed deli or luncheon meats) seems to have a negative effect on human health.  These results were not observed for unprocessed meat from beef, lamb or pork, excluding poultry.  The study suggests that the "differences in salt and preservatives, rather than fats, might explain the higher risk of heart disease and diabetes seen with processed meats, but not with unprocessed red meats." The entire study can be read about here.

It’s obviously a very complicated matter, however, most doctors and studies agree on one thing: consuming large quantities of red or processed meat is not good for your health.  From some types of cancer to cardiovascular diseases, diabetes, or obesity, this type of food consumed in large quantities seems to be heavily related to such big health issues.(source)

These issues are huge when you consider the fact that most tribes in the world consume large quantities of this type of food.  In the US tribe, for instance, people consume 2-3 times more meats than what is recommended.

Therefore, a good chunk of the creatures that people currently eat around the world are not a healthy choice, at least in the way that they are typically consumed today.

Another very important issue with raising and eating such creatures is bacteria that is harmful to humans.  In order to keep these creatures healthy for consumption, they are given various types of antibiotics, a ‘magic’ thing that kills some types of bacteria.  However, since bacteria replicate very quickly and genetic mutations often occur during replication, new types of bacteria emerge that the ‘magic’ of antibiotics cannot kill.  Thus, this type of ‘evolved’ bacteria replicate even more inside of the creatures and end up in people’s food.  The most obvious way is for these mutant bacteria to be transmitted to us directly through the creature’s flesh, the meat that you buy (or order at a restaurant) and eat.  If not cooked thoroughly enough, these mutant bacteria find their way inside you and mess with your health.  They can also become airborne or ‘travel’ underground.  As creatures poop and urinate, bacteria from the evaporating ‘waste’ can end up traveling and spreading through the air, or waste can eventually reach into the groundwater, introducing them into the water supply that we use for cooking, drinking, bathing, etc..  Then consider the fact that, because these are ‘mutant’ bacteria, there are no treatments for whatever issues they might cause within us.  As a result, new treatments need to be continuously developed for ever-increasingly resistant bacteria.(source)

The overuse of antibiotics in livestock is a long-existing issue in the world.

Alternatives

Eating creatures has become a very complicated process.  From raising them, to keep them healthy and then ‘transforming’ them or their by-products into foods: meat, sausages, eggs, milk, and so on.  Then there is the continuous transporting of food grown and prepared specifically for them from one corner of the world to another, plus transporting them or their eventual ‘parts’ around the world, not to mention the much-less-than-enjoyable lives that most of them lead from birth to slaughter.

It is also deeply concerning that this entire sector occupies so much land, clearing so many forests that results in losing many species of plants and animals, while also greatly reducing the capacity of the Earth to absorb greenhouse gases.  This approach also emits a lot of new greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, contributing to an already damaged global climate.  And as we’ve discussed above, one of the most (if not ‘the’ most) consumed part of these creatures (processed red meat) is alarmingly associated with a plethora of diseases.

Taking all of that into account, perhaps human ingenuity can come up with something much better than all of this damaging chaos.  It’s now 2015, but we are still using food production methods that are basically as old as those used 5,000 or more years ago.

In order to make rubber 100 or so years ago, used in so many domains/products, you had to grow certain trees and ‘milk’ them for this substance.  The process was slow and posed numerous environmental issues.  Then, they invented synthetic rubber (rubber made in the lab, without the need of growing trees) and it turned out to be better for our needs than natural rubber, and more efficient to create.  This is the kind of shift that our food production needs to make.

When it comes to food, what we really need is products, not the creatures themselves.  We need something that we call ‘nutrients’.  Plants get these nutrients from soil or air, but we need to ingest ‘stuff’ that contains these nutrients, so that our digestive system can break the ‘stuff’ down and work the rest of its ‘magic’.  These nutrients transform our bodies, allowing us to grow, and live (energy).  From tissue generation to movement and heat production, these nutrients are our fuel.

To better understand this process, watch this very simple and well-done video.

If the only thing that we need are these nutrients, then why aren’t we ‘producing’ or isolating them and simply ‘inject’ them into our bodies?  Instead of growing creatures or other ‘things’ from which we can get these necessary nutrients, why aren’t we inventing foods that provide all of our nutritional needs?

Couple this way of thinking with the idea of extracting nutrients from more convenient sources such as bugs, vegetables and fruits, and we could come up with something that is far better than the current food production approach.  We talk in detail about these solutions in our special book on Automation and Autonomous World, here.  We look closely at vertical farming, meat grown in the lab or direct mixtures of substances that can be ingested (drink, eat) without the need for growing any plants or animals to extract them from.

But even if humans develop ideas that are far more sustainable and efficient, that is not enough at all.  We must not forget that we live in a world that is still very separated by monetary gain (power) and tribal patriotism.  Entire tribes depend monetarily on meat production and thus may not see any incentives to invest in other foods/production methods, but they may do whatever they can to not lose their perceived differential advantage.  In today’s world, you cannot just put a stop to such industries, because they are too embedded in today’s infrastructure, affecting people and the environment.

Also, many of the problems with what we eat and the way we eat are directly related to our reliance on money.  If companies find a profit from producing and selling food from creatures, they will do that with little concern for the environment, because their main drive is profit.  They are also investing large amounts of money in marketing, thus shaping people’s food choices.  Also, as long as meat is cheaper, then people will buy it.  It has been estimated that global meat consumption is expected to double from 2000 to 2050, partly as a consequence of increasing world population, but also partly because of increased per capita meat consumption.(source)

Inventing better methods inside the monetary system will face the same recurring problems of corruption, profit over health/environment, the loss of jobs as new systems of food production require less and less people, etc., and this will trigger its own chain of negative impacts on the monetary system.  Even if plenty of vertical farms emerge, or other kinds of food production facilities with no significant impact on the environment or people’s health, many people will not be able to afford to buy the food they produce.  As we have echoed a couple of times in the past there is more than enough food already produced around the world to feed everyone, yet so many are starving.  This is because the world-wide monetary system is simply not working.

Thinking that maybe if people choose other alternatives of food production than those that rely on livestock, and that stopping the practice of eating animal products will change the world is, I think, not nearly enough.  It’s much more intelligent, civilized and efficient to create a global society in which no one feels a need to rely on others to, for instance, turn off the lights to preserve energy, but instead provides a comprehensive system in which lights turn on and off automatically when they detect or no longer detect a presence, utilizing an infrastructure that is based on renewable energies so that the loss of energy is not that important.  The same goes for eating habits, where I think the solution is to create a different kind of society in which no one has any need to make a buck from selling unhealthy food, or pre-modeling people’s food choices through advertisements and attempting to influence the research on their products’ safety by using the power of money.  This system would provide all of the relevant information about what a healthy human diet is, uninfluenced by any ‘powers’ as it is in today’s world; a system in which no one would have any interest in building such costly and energy/resource inefficient means of food production.

I would say never rely on people to change their habits, but instead invent better systems and methods that would produce the desired result.  I can (and probably will) start to not eat creatures anymore, but I don’t think that will have any significant impact on a worldwide food production system that is desperately pushed by billion dollar investments, a global population where most people are highly separated from nature by culture which nurtures ignorance, and where most of that population is highly influenced in their food choices by these companies (advertising, bad ‘science’, etc).  However, even if I can’t change the whole world by only changing my eating habits, it will definitely improve my health and, thus, this change is worth it.

In a trade-free society, not only will the focus be on the quality and variety of food and its distribution to all people without a price tag, but new methods of producing food will quickly emerge, as they will not be limited by money, while the safety of foods will be assured by an environment in which people have no reason to seek any kind of profit-motive shortcuts, as their main concern will center around the total health of people and the environment.

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My parents are using TROM-Jaro for the past half year or so. And Linux (Ubuntu or other flavors) for the past 3-4 years or more. They simply need a stable operating system and a way for them to access the Internet without "trading" as much. In truth my first motivation to make a custom Linux OS was to do it for my parents because I wanted them to have a "ready to use" OS that blocks ads and trackers and it is simple enough for them to use. In fact I tested TROM-Jaro with them first, because if they can use it, most people can. They are not at all computer savvy and probably most people are like that, so we need an operating system that ca be used by anyone. They know very well how to keep the system updated now, and because TROM-Jaro has automatic backups before every update then it is easy for me to fix their computers in case an update breaks the system, which never happened so far.

I also installed TROM-Jaro on a half a laptop (that had no screen anymore) and I connected it with a TV so now they have a "smart TV" to watch online whatever they want to watch. I paired that with a cheap Bluetooth remote controller that worked out of the box and so now they have 3 devices with TROM-Jaro.

So, it is super useful that TROM-Jaro is set up for people who don't know much about computers because I make sure my parents don't see ads or are tracked online, have automatic backups and the interface is so easy to use that they can find whatever they need by pressing or clicking one button (the Dash).

The laptops have between 2 and 4 GB of RAM and a simple integrated Intel graphics card, and the TV has 1.6GB of RAM. TROM-Jaro works well on all of them out of the box. Chat image
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Thank you Savadey for the 100 AUD via Paypal and the message "keep up the good work " - Awesome! Lately more and more financial support for TROM which is fantastic! Thank you so much people https://www.tromsite.com/donate/
Tio
Here's a video I edited for Sasha for her campaign :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABbNeEmhMh0 - watch it! it is cool. very. interesting. talks about us too. also a footage with her, me and aaron somewhere there...
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Sasha needs some help to finish a Trade-Free Book about her journey. https://www.gofundme.com/f/big-world-small-sasha-the-book - she will post the book as Trade-Free on her website in digital format.

Sasha has been a great help for TROM for the past 2 years. She helped TROM financially (quite a lot), with proofreading or by spreading the word about TROM and Trade-Free on her blogs, social networks, and she even created a TROM Discussions Youtube stream for a while where she was discussing TROM subjects with new-to-the-project people. Her website, https://www.bigworldsmallsasha.com/ is labelled as Trade-Free.

She is also now part of our small "TROM family" - I (Tio), Aaron and her share a flat that we transformed into our small TROM office (will post videos and photos about this in the following months), and we help each other financially to be able to keep working on these projects. So, any help for Sasha is also a help for TROM ;) - she needs financial help to be able to focus on finishing her book (she already wrote some 70%) - needless to say in the book she talks about TROM too ;).

What is important about what she does is that she reaches new people (people interested in travelling around the world and having this different kind of lifestyle) - these people we could not (or rarely) reach with our projects. Now such people get to also know about TROM.

Big World, Small Sasha!
Tio
Here is a review of TROM-Jaro by Alexio :) - https://www.facebook.com/tromproject/posts/2619863141403328?__tn__=K-R (it is too big to post the entire text on our live) Chat image
Tio
Keep in mind that Manjaro is one of the most well known and used Linux distributions. If they said they may incorporate some of our good ideas into their official Gnome edition, then that's big :)
Tio
We are getting more attention for our TROM-Jaro from Manjaro's community which is fantastic - see here https://forum.manjaro.org/t/trom-jaro-a-trade-free-manjaro-build/93739 - One recent message was very encouraging, comming from a member of the Manjaro's Team: "This distro makes me happy. It's cool that Manjaro has a daughter distro, with clear vision, ethics and style. I'm hoping to borrow some of your good ideas to gnome edition. :) " - He also said he can help with some stuff, which is truly amazing. Imagine if this trade-free idea catches on in the open source community. It could be a fantastic way to make people aware of what creates most of our issues in the society, not only in the open source. Let's see where this leads, but so far this idea with "trade as the source of most problems" and focusing on trade-free goods and services as a "cure" for it, seems to catch on little by little.
Tio
Did a bunch of work for tromsite.com - improved some stuff, fixed some bugs. this site is made of so many many many parts, yet the way it is built it seems like one. is almost like we took cats, dogs and elephants, and created one single creature but you could not tell that this monster is made out of other animals :))
Tio
Ah, and when you download them you download them in multiple video formats + their respective subtitles. We'll work to incorporate any other video we have on tromsite through the Internet Archive.
Tio
Another super cool thing thanks to the trade-free Internet Archive: on the videos page you can now download any series you want form p2p https://www.tromsite.com/videos/ - and everytime we add new content to any of the video series we make, the download links gets updated automatically. Much less work for us! :)
Tio
Now you can get TROM-Jaro iso from both our server and bittorrent https://www.tromjaro.com/install/ - both should work all the time. We use the Internet Archive as the torrent source since they also provide a seedbox so it guarantees peers. We got 631 vies on the manjaro forum for our tromjaro post. And a bunch of people got interested in-it. That's awesome! I hope to find more time to add more apps to tromjaro.com.
Tio
Working on the Fort-Profit Entertainment book by Dima! :)
Tio
So these days we had a TROM-Cast, like we usually do, but this time we discuss about our new trade-free.org project. It got the attention of some people, and new ones participated for the cast challenging the idea. To make it super-mega short, I “created” this path now for “social change” via “trade as the source of most problems”, and some think is not a good idea. I’ll keep it all extremely brief since I already wrote thousand of pages on the topic. Here's the blog I wrote https://www.tiotrom.com/2019/07/why-trade-and-not-scarcity/
Tio
Thank you Jennifer for the 100 Euros donation. Wow! And for the message "Thank you for all that you do! ". :) - https://www.tromsite.com/donate/
Tio
I sent 20 or so emails to several people in the Linux community about tromjaro. Let's see if any pays attention to it.
Sasha
Tio and I have been working very hard on my new site for the last 2 months and now it is finally done! Check it out: https://www.bigworldsmallsasha.com/

It’s a trade-free travel blog that details how you can travel around the world with little money, but the main idea is actually to entice people with travel stories in order to introduce them to the important topics that we discuss here in TROM. So the point is to reach new people :)

These two pages (and a lot of my blogs) include links to TROM material: https://www.bigworldsmallsasha.com/traveltips/ [link src="http://www.bigworldsmallsasha.com/lifestyle/

The"] website was designed by Tio – I can’t thank him enough for the enormous amount of effort he put into my site. Tio is by far the kindest and most genuinely extensional person that I know. And also- genius! :D and very creative. All the photos of my stuff, Polaroid theme and basically everything else on my site was his idea :). And we spent many hours/days/weeks customizing it to make it look like it does now.

I hope you enjoy it :)
Tio
I fixed trade-free.org for mobiles ;)
Tio
Cody: "I use trom-jaro to easily edit videos and maintain multiple systems that help decentralize some of the tools and videos TROM creates! I also use it to host the TROM-Cast weekly and thanks to it's lack of tracking / data harvesting, my computers resources can be freed to do what I WANT =]" Chat image
Tio
Organized TRM Riot a lot since we fuckin' grow :D - we need a room for video, one for tromjaro, one for webdev, and so forth. I love it! Also, Alexio joined the team :) - he organized TROM stuff so neatly and awesome that we need to use his powers! hehe
Tio
David Panart just became a $15 patron! - thank you so much! :) - monthly donations help a lot! https://www.tromsite.com/donate/
Tio
The brilliant Roma is working on something super cool so that anyone can translate the trade-free.org website in a bit. The general idea is this: people have access to a public file on gitlab that contains the english text and all of the links on the page. And they simply translate that. Then trade-free.org can call that page everytime people add the lang after the url, like say trade-free.org/es triggers the ES (spanish) translation. Of course, anyone can use that file + the HTML5 version of the website to host it anywhere. Roma is like Ziad it seems. Two brilliant people who are helping TROM in ways I could not do! :)
Tio
We moved our videos to The Internet Archive :) - a trade-free alternative to youtube which is an abundant service that is based on trades :) - we love the Internet Archive. You can see our new and improved videos page here https://www.tromsite.com/videos/ - now it is way easier to access all of our videos. Unfortunately we don't now why the subtitles are not working right now....we contacted IA...we'll see. We want to also move every other video there. Next step would be to stream via p2p and not even rely on IA. But for now this is the first major step to move away from Youtube and Vimeo ;)
Aaron
TROM-Jaro is my tool to create trade-free things. I use it to translate TROM materials into german, such as videos and audiobooks with the video-editor kdenlive + audacity and books with the partially trade-free app Master PDF Editor. I communicate with humans via Signal, Riot and Thunderbird and I work on my personal website + browse the web with Firefox. All trade-free. Plus I decentralize our materials with easy-to-use apps like webtorrent and the beaker browser. All in all I love tromjaro as it is fast, easy to use and it simply works. The fact that it works on my macbook is even another big plus-point. www.tromjaro.com Chat image
Tio
We'll skip tromcast today. I am too tired :D - will do one next week for sure. I'm working on other stuff too, so I'll be busy these days, especially today
Tio
Thank you Roma for the 86 Euros donation :) and the awesome message:

"Trade-free. org is great from both sides: as an idea and the site itself is amazingly crafted! Kudos to all who was involved. Appreciating all you hard work to release it! A real pleasure to be a part of such dedicated Team! Love all"
Tio
We will start to make these kind of posts about TROM-Jaro :) - from Gia:

"I use TROM-Jaro as my daily drive to browse the internet without being tracked by scripts (at least not as much), without seeing ads, and such. Less trades. I use it to translate TROM materials, read books, watch documentaries, or for digital drawing. https://www.tromjaro.com/" Chat image
Tio
Here are some websites labeled as trade-free by Alexio www.creativitate.cf www.energetica.cf www.echipamente.cf www.instalatii.cf - we need to make this idea spread and have other websites labeled as such.

Alexio's message:

"Some of the reasons to propose these websites as Trade-Free are:

- I am sharing/adapting on these webpages the trade-free content from the TROM projects;

- it is all about open education - http://is.jrc.ec.europa.eu/pages/EAP/OEREU.html ;

- the content on these websites is available under CC Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International. "
Tio
I had to fix some stuff for trade-free.org - so now is 100% downloadable. Before it wasn't. Now even the font we use is downloadable. Also Roma added it to gitlab https://gitlab.com/tromsite/trade-free/trade-free.org - need to be updated with today's updates ;)
Aaron
We released the trade-free website in german: https://www.handelsfrei.org/ - very exciting :)
Tio
We are super close to move to Internet Archive, except the documentary for now. Rafa helps with migrating the subtitles ;) - I have also prepared a text document to explain how one can translate trade-free.org into their own language - I can't manage that myself....too much stuff to manage. So people have to take that as their responsibility and translate and host that page. I'll give them the tools. I may take 1-2 days of work, but is not super complicated. Still need to refine everything then will post on trade-free.org.
Aaron
The video + audiobook "valuable without a value" is now available in german on tromsite.com/de
Tio
We are super close to move all of our videos (except the documentary for now) to Internet Archive. Almost all are already uploaded there and I made a new video page for tromsite that is much much better. We will have better control now over the videos. This year we will give up Vimeo, moving away from trade-based services. We walk the talk boys! :)
Tio
Finally posted about TROM-Jaro on Manjaro forum https://forum.manjaro.org/t/trom-jaro-a-trade-free-manjaro-build/93739 and I will send info about it to others too - distrowatch and some youtubers.
Tio
Now musikwave.com, videoneat.com, tromsite.com, tromjaro.com and tiotrom.com are all labaled (at the bottom of each page) as Trade-Free :) - if you have a project that creates trade-free stuff then you can label it as such and link to https://www.trade-free.org/ - so we can start something interesting and useful. ;)
Tio
Big thanks to the "invisible" (or not so visible) people who support TROM on Liberapay https://liberapay.com/TROM/ and Patreon https://www.patreon.com/trom for the past years. Without them we could not have paid for servers, tools, and time to build TROM and its baby projects. So, thank you so much!
Tio
added trade-free to https://www.tiotrom.com/ and tromjaro.com too - tomorrow i'll add to musikwave and videoneat ;) + make a text to promote tromjaro!
Tio
added trade-free to tromsite.com and removed the links to any other external "thing" like fb or youtube and so forth, because tromsite is tromsite and i dont want to redirect people to these trade-based places :) - purism! hehe
Tio
Join tromcast here https://meet.jit.si/tromcasttradefree - password: tromtrade
Tio
fixed some stuff with tormjaro.com - kinda ready for promoting on manjaro forums and so forth! i am working to add "This is a Trade-Free Project" on all websites: musikwave, tromsite, tiotrom, videoneat, everywhere I can! :)
Tio
Next few days are dedicated to add a trade-free sign on all of my/our websites, linking to trade-free.org. Also fix some bugs with some websites + then I'll create a long post promoting tromjaro.com on open source forums/websites. Tomorrow TROM-Cast about trade-free.org and we'll also talk about TVP.
Tio
And thank you Willy for your monthly 10 Euros Paypal donation! ;)
Tio
Thank you anonymous donor for the 100 Euros donation! https://www.tromsite.com/donate/ :D
Tio
I wanted to post the bellow message on FB too but they won't let me: it is against their "community standards" they say. That's why I don't give much of a fuck about FB. Like we want to share our originally made videos on their platform and they won't let us....fuck them. Not all magnets are "illegal", you stupid!
Tio
And btw, the videos on trade-free.org are streamed from peer-to-peer. They are on no server! :) - they are on people's computers. If you want to help us, seed those videos:

The main video's magnet link is: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:bbe36cb6ba5d6afeb50421a2509a969786710e8e&dn=Trade-Free.mp4&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexplodie.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.empire-js.us%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337&tr=wss%3A%2F%2Ftracker.btorrent.xyz&tr=wss%3A%2F%2Ftracker.fastcast.nz&tr=wss%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openwebtorrent.com

And the logo making video is: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:d66bf00649e889e261782c3a5098f68b68d35a00&dn=Trade-Free+Logo+Making.mp4&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexplodie.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.empire-js.us%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337&tr=wss%3A%2F%2Ftracker.btorrent.xyz&tr=wss%3A%2F%2Ftracker.fastcast.nz&tr=wss%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openwebtorrent.com

Use WebTorrent to seed them, else it won't work. It is simple and you'll help us! Thanks!
Tio
thank you thank you thank you to all who have helped with this site: the idea, the suggestions, the everything!
Tio
https://www.trade-free.org/ is DONE! Check it :D - we will improve on it but this is basically it. We will add translations and we will create a trade-free directory soon :P - sooo so happy is finally here!
Tio
Yeah a bit more work on trade-free.org....but we are getting there....i dont want to get to stressed out by the work I have to do...VN also has some bugs that I need to fix. After we release TF website I need to manage my time better and have some more leisure time for myself and be less stressed out with this work. I am too passionate so is hard for me to not stress out cause I am excited and I want to fix and release!
Tio
Fixed some tromjaro.com stuff and need to fix some tromsite.com stuff....like plugins update that break parts of the website and you only notice after a few weeks....annoying
Tio
We are getting close to release trade-free.org. Is kinda done....maybe today will release. That website will for sure improve in time and we will do a documentary about "trade" that will be posted on the site. But we need to get it out there. We need to link to it. We need to talk about it ;)
Flingafu
I made a video on how to setup your own trade-free WIFI network! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3dY7LmqwPs
Tio
Participate here https://meet.jit.si/tromcastvolunteer and pass is tromcastv
Tio
TROM-Cast about volunteering in 1 and a half hour https://youtu.be/xNNoNvmVMwE
Tio
New FAQ Submitted: Are some people born with genes or biology which makes them to have more chances to become smart in some certain things in life? - answer here https://www.tromsite.com/faq/
Tio
Ok so VideoNeat has some weird bugs that I had to force-solve...i have no idea why those bugs....is the theme apparently...anyways. Is back! We worked today a lot on trade-free.org. Ziad is such a great help. Great guy! Main thing I need to add to trade-free is the text (which is kinda done) and implement translations (which can be difficult). Also, seen we will have double the storage and power for our server where we store all of our websites. I'll let you know. Super excited!
Tio
For the past many hours I'm trying to fix some videoneat design weird bugs...dont know wtf happened there but some pages are broken...
Tio
Patreon: "MayBritt just edited their pledge from $30 to $50." - Thank you so so much for your ongoing support! https://www.tromsite.com/donate/
Seb
New TROM Poem out (made this one 3 years ago, crazy that it's been this long) - 'The Ugliness of Beauty': https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG60mUXDirFbCT4SaumWpyA
Tio
Ok, so, I tested some video-decentralization options.

1. So, the ideal solution would be using webtorrent + amara in a popup. Meaning, videos to be streamed from our computers (p2p) and if we can to embed them with the amara player so all subtitles are added automatically. If possible to do that in a popup would be fantastic - click and play. Webtorrent streaming is working (we tested) - though there are some downsides...but manageable. This streaming option is the perfect one since we won't need any streaming service/hosting. We have 80GB of video files already and we are growing every week in size, so no hosting plan is enough for us in the long run. The problem is how to add it in a popup and deal with the subtitles....this is super problematic. As soon as we make trade-free.org work perfectly well with this technology we could implement to tromsite.com. Also, to videoneat.com (likely) - imagine people being able to click and play any torrent file from videoneat!!! That would be my dream!

2. Another solution is to use the video files directly (like mp4 or webm) from either our server or the internet archive servers. From our server is safer cause we have 100% control over them, but that would mean upgrading our server and will costs some money and these people are super charlatans - they say "oh you can upgrade to $40 a month for double the space and power"....however they don't mention that it means ONLY if you accept a 3 year "contact" with them for the plan....else costs a lot more....also am not sure how well the server will handle video streaming. Then we have to integrate to amara if possible....

3. Directly using the Internet Archive's player. Their player is not that great but is the easiest solution right now tho we will have to add the subtitles manually to it. It is the best vimeo replacement for sure.

Damn is a lot of work and is not that easy.... :( - and I have so much stuff to work on...
Tio
So today I got really pissed off at that plugin giving me the middle finger and I looked more and more into decentralizing trom videos. for now we will upload all trom materials to the internet archive and i will probably replace all videos on tromsite with those. Already did for the trailer on the homepage https://www.tromsite.com/ - it streams from the internet archive. Let's see if the url is persistent. I will do that first then try to stream from p2p. So far I love the IA.
Tio
aaand is back! we'll look into internet archive and the like for now...we'll see...so many things to do ....