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The Science Vaccine

CATEGORY / Behavior TAGS / abhorrent, behavior, burial, burials, crime, education, human, pet, preventing, psychopaths, social, values AUTHOR / Tio DATE / 20/04/2015

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Author: Tio

Viruses are tiny structures that self-replicate inside your body, creating a series of reactions that are more or less harmful to you, or in some cases, even deadly.  Prior to the 18th century, people often died from contracting these viruses; sometimes many tens of millions from just a single ‘outbreak’.  They tried all sorts of remedies to cure or at least ameliorate the symptoms, but with little or no result.  That held true until in 1796, when someone decided, based on knowledge he uncovered in an older reference recorded decades before, to try injecting a weak form of a virus into a child,  investigating how well this might help make the child immune to more powerful versions of the same virus.  Astonishingly, it worked, changing the world forever as to how humans can deal with viruses.  It took almost 100 more years for this new ‘vaccine’ method to be properly tested and implemented on a larger scale, and now many vaccines have been developed to allow both humans and livestock animals to avoid most of the destructive viruses that exist.

Viruses are spread across all ecosystems on the planet, making up the world’s most abundant biological entity.  Infection can range from simple symptoms that almost any human being can handle without treatment, including running nose, fever, sore throat, fatigue, headache, etc., while others are much more problematic and can produce severe pain, internal or external bleeding, and in some cases, death.

There are still many viruses out there, some with fatality rates around 90%, that have no treatment or vaccine, which means if you ‘catch it’, you are much more likely to die than survive it.  There are also numerous others with lesser non-lethal effects that have no vaccine or significant treatment as well.

Take Influenza (the ‘flu’), for example.  There are 3-5 million severe illness cases per year, and around 250,000 to 500,000 deaths annually.  Influenza is typically transmitted through the air (airborne), which is the most powerful, robust way that a virus can transmit.  As a RNA-based virus, Influenza is highly variable (it quickly mutates), so its vaccine is strongly recommended as a seasonal/annual ‘shot’ for people with reduced immune systems.  Viruses are ‘controlled’ by analyzing numerous factors about them and the symptoms they create, and then arriving at the best decision on the type or types of measures to be taken: perhaps a new or adjusted vaccine is needed, or maybe prevention can do the job (sanitation, quarantine, etc.).  In cases of airborne viruses, prevention without a vaccine is risky and may be uncontrollable to a certain degree, but in other situations, prevention is often the key.

The Zaire Ebola virus is a perfect example of how, although there is no vaccine or treatment for it yet, it can be managed to a certain extent.  Since Ebola is only transmitted through direct contact with body fluids, the quicker you isolate (quarantine) infected cases, the faster the virus will disappear.  It may kill many (and this is something we should strive to solve ), it may weaken some who contract it (and this is something we should strive to ameliorate), but with isolation, the virus will have less and less people to spread to and will eventually disappear.  That’s not to say that it is completely eradicated, but it becomes unlikely to affect people from that particular area, or other surrounding areas.  When there are no more cases of a particular virus infection, they call it extinct.  However, that is not to say the virus is non-existent anymore, but rather that it is now so well-managed that there are little to no cases of infections, with practically 0% risk of new infection to anyone.

There are two crucial ideas behind dealing with viruses:

  1. Prevention and Treatment: Prevent an infection from happening in the first place, and when it happens have a treatment that can cope with the effects
  2. Vaccination: Prepare the body prior to infection, so that it becomes highly resistant / immune to viruses

With all of these viruses in the world, even with the chaotic world-wide infrastructure handicapped by culture and money, human societies are coping quite well today when it comes to viruses.  If you happen to be in the US, you are much more likely to be killed by another man than by malaria.  There were 14,748 homicides in the United States in 2010, while malaria infected around 1,500, and death from most of these infections were and continue to be prevented.  Now put that in perspective - people are more dangerous than malaria in the US!  Even worldwide, malaria kills 627,000 people and homicide is almost close to that at roughly a half million per year in 2012.  From this we can conclude that human beings are as (or more) dangerous as some powerful viruses, and this is where I wanted to arrive at.

Ok now. So. If we want to solve poverty, reduce waste and crime, get rid of corruption, solve climate change, and all of our major problems that we face today on planet Earth, shouldn’t we start and build self sustainable cities, move to renewable energies, make better laws, and so forth? What if, we should not. What if the solution is a scientific education + relevant infrastructure that together can create a new kind of society? I see it is paramount to educate people about subjects like obscenity, nudity, monetary system, how their bodies work, what science is, and so forth, in order to create a saner society.

If we were to build self sustainable cities right now that can provide goods and services for free for all people living inside them, and then move people directly from this society into them, it won’t work.  It can’t. It will be a disaster. What if some people feel offended by how other dress, or if choose to not dress?  What if something like that leads to violent acts by some who aren’t prepared to handle it?  What if some people find it ‘immoral’ to kill ‘sentient’ beings, such as mosquitoes that can perhaps transmit deadly diseases?  What if some want to impose their own personal beliefs on others and maybe use ‘common heritage’ resources to build more buildings for prayer than hospitals?  What if?

People from today’s society are ‘infected’ with all sorts of notions that are both unscientific and, more often than not, pose potential dangers to others.  Believing that you can arrive at a much saner society by only building self-sustainable cities is like thinking that making syringes will eliminate viruses.

We need to deal with these kind of social viruses and manage them in order for them to not spread and become too dangerous.  As in the case of the real viruses, social notions can become more or less dangerous, or some can pose no threat to the society as a whole, even if they are unscientific or unverifiable.  If we want to feed, clothe and overall take care of all Earth’s humans and resources, and provide people with the opportunity to explore, create, relax and enjoy their ‘trip’ on this planet, then we have to make sure we can also prevent harmful social notions from interfering with such a world.

So, what then is a social virus?  We wrote an article about harmful thinking that we highly recommend you to read (or re-read), but basically, any notion can be seen as ‘harmful’ if it’s not scientifically sound and/or can interfere with the equal opportunities everyone will have on this planet.

For instance, certain sorts of beliefs that are imposed onto others can be seen as harmful.  Teaching your child that the world was made by an unseen entity (pick any one) and that the sole purpose of this world is to spread messages about that entity, leads toward a society of individuals with significantly reduced scientific understanding, which in turn affects both them and others through their overall lack of involvement in society due to their inability to do so.  This is not to say that everyone must somehow put something significant and positive into society, or else the rest of us will view him/her as a social virus - not at all - but we must understand that scientifically ignorant people, especially if they represent a majority, can have a significant backlash on the overall evolution of our scientific and technological knowledge and development, and society as a whole.  Additionally, multiple contradictory beliefs tend to seriously conflict with each other, sometimes leading to extreme violence.

For instance, there have been millions of deaths in the name of various religions, along with the cultivating of so many scientifically illiterate people who are mentally unable to make any positive contribution to society as a whole, or worse, may have caused negative impacts.  However, the key is in the way these religions are interpreted.  Some types of biological viruses can be harmless, or even beneficial, if properly managed.  Many people who are religious are not at all harmful to themselves or to society.  More than that, many have contributed or are still contributing a significant amount to scientific knowledge.  Therefore, a ‘vaccine’ is needed to make sure that ‘notions revolving around’ religions cannot lead towards detrimental situations for society and the individual.  While one can certainly lead a happy life by reading the Koran, and may be inspired to pursue a scientific understanding of nature, another could choose to kill other people by doing the same.  That is the social-virus that I want to define: not religion or any such clusters of ideas, but how these ideas are digested by people.

Therefore, it’s not that the Koran should become ‘extinct’, or any religious groups or notions, but instead for humanity to be able to manage these notions in a way that they cannot be harmful.  I suppose most religious people can agree that killing, or even harming, other humans or other creatures in the name of religion is not a step forward, especially if we are to live together on planet Earth.  Also, killing Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, or any religious people or groups, is like killing people that are infected with a biological virus and expecting that to solve the problem completely.

Like with real viruses, there are many different types of social viruses that can spread, mutate, and become dangerous, and again like with the real ones, social viruses can be either eliminated through a ‘vaccine’ or well-managed and cured.  Both methods can lead to a stabilization of a saner world-wide society.

I perceive science as a form of vaccine.  When children are taught the methods of science, the likelihood of social viruses ‘infecting’ them later on is very low, almost non-existent, but that is not to say it cannot happen.  I am not religious at all, so I can never kill ‘in the name of’ Allah, or God, or do any harm because of such notions.  However, if I am ignorant in other areas of understanding, I might make fun of fat people and they might kill themselves because of my social ignorance.  Get it?  As I said, there are many social viruses, so there is need for many types of social vaccines.  You cannot expect one type of ‘vaccine’ to cure them all.  There are many scientific or so-called ‘critical thinkers’ who still think we can solve problems through politics and are simply unable to question the system we currently live in.  By doing that, they promulgate a global system that kills, directly or indirectly, many thousands of people a year (starvation, severe stress, lack of healthcare, etc).  Even scientific notions such as “evolution” can be interpreted in ways that are unscientific and harmful: there are groups of people who still agree with a Hitler-like ‘survival of the strongest’ idea, thinking that only healthy people should survive in our society.

The more you learn and deeply understand about many subjects, the more ‘scientific’ your thinking will be, but it’s not a process that has a finite goal.  Just as some viruses mutate and new vaccines need to be developed, the same goes for social viruses that can mutate and we’ll need to develop new methods of coping with them.  For instance: new pseudosciences can arise even from relatively recent domains like quantum physics, and we have to be able to deal with that as a global society.  In reality, there is no such thing as ‘critical thinking’, since there is no end to learning and you can only be critical in the areas you know most about.  Even in those areas, you still may not know enough, since new discoveries continually invalidate our ‘current’ understandings.

However, ‘vaccines’ may not be available to some (like education) or they often arrive too late (after a social virus has already infected them), so we need more than that.  Remember what the basic ideas are behind dealing with a virus?  Vaccination, Prevention, plus Treatment.

We can ‘vaccinate’ people with education, science, and teaching them long-understood problem-solving skills, how to investigate, etc, but doing that in a society like the one we currently live in is likely to lead us nowhere.  Why?

Well, there are numerous reasons, some of which have to do with the fact that most individuals must manage having a ‘job’, and thus do not have the time or energy they need to learn many new things; cultural differences play another role, since children are influenced in their thinking by the tribe (country) they are born in (the authority), as well as all of their parent’s biases; money plays a key factor in ‘promoting’ many social viruses - think about the idea of ‘beauty’ that’s promoted by so many companies, just to sell clothes or beauty products, that make many people feel ugly or inspire them to make fun of others, just based on their looks.  Another influence of money that is even more severe is when it influences health care.  Let me exemplify:

I’ve always had a problem with my eyesight.  In daylight, I have hardly no problem seeing, but when it gets darker, I struggle to see; everything is blurry to me.  I decided to do something about that and went to see an eye specialist, in a place where they also make eyeglasses.  Following my checkup, the doctor said that I need glasses.  I asked her if contact lenses would be better at correcting my vision and she almost laughed.  She said it’s silly to wear contact lenses.  They’re dangerous.  You can get an eye infection from them.

Ok, I said…  I told her that I would be back because I need to think about it.

In the meantime, the thought came to me to go for another eye exam, but this time where they make contact lenses.  These exam services are free under certain conditions here, so I thought I should take full advantage of that.  Just as with the previous checkup, their doctor went through all of the exam stages, and then she told me that I really need contact lenses.  Glasses, she said, may gather bacteria on their lenses, scratches, get dirty, and so on, therefore contact lenses are cleaner and the best option for me.

Ok, I said…  I told her that I would be back because I have to think about it  :).

To make this picture more complete about what I need for my eyes, I found a free LASIK surgery eye control.  LASIK is an eye surgery done with laser.  They change the shape of your eye in order to correct the vision.  I went there and, after the checkup was completed, guess what?  The doctor said LASIK is the perfect solution for me.  There are far more risks wearing contact lenses than having this surgery.  And eye glasses…, well they may not correct your vision entirely and it is not comfortable to wear them everywhere if you have an active life.

Ok, I said…  I told him that I would be back because I have to think about it  :).

All of the doctors I went to recommended only what they had to sell me.  I was amused by the entire situation because it was so obvious that they ‘care’ mostly about selling their particular services/products, no matter what the ‘best approach’ happens to be for my eyes.  Although they were doctors, they had different opinions about the same issue and their opinions were directly influenced by money.

The thing is, my eyesight is not that bad, so LASIK surgery is not likely my best bet, especially since it has some side-effects that I had to read about on Wikipedia and specialized medical websites, since the doctor failed to tell me about them.  Some of these side effects may be irreversible, so a honest doctor would have told me about these.  It’s true that contact lenses pose more of a danger of eye infection than LASIK surgery poses, but both risks are low.  In any case, they should have told me about these risks, no matter how low or mild they were.

None of the doctors talked about the risks of adopting their solution; only about their benefits, and the risks of other alternatives.  It’s as if they were competing…  🙂

It was quite an interesting experience to me as I saw first-hand, in a matter of just one month, how 3 doctors told me very different things about the ‘best’ solution for my eye problem.

So you see, although these doctors may be scientifically literate about that particular subject, their ‘opinions’ change due to monetary influence.  If the LASIK doctor would have recommended me to wear contact lenses because a LASIK may not be needed for my eyesight, the company he works for would automatically lose 2,000 Euros.  If I had told him upfront that I could not afford LASIK, maybe he would have been more honest about it.  The same goes for the other two.  They probably fear that they could not sell as many eyeglasses or contact lenses if they were sincere, but if all of them were consistently honest (had no reason to hide important information), humanity would certainly have a much more balanced system in place that truly takes care of life, rather than bank accounts.

This example is one of the most ‘non-harmful’ scenarios out there, considering that people are sometimes killed because of the incentive to make a profit.  There are plenty of online sources showing how big such institutional corruption is.

Let’s go back to the real viruses for a minute:
A single strain of the influenza class of viruses killed around 50-100 million human beings in 1918 (perhaps the greatest human loss-of-life disaster).  That was partly to blame on the poor infrastructure and knowledge at the time, but it was also exacerbated by perceived monetary gain/loss that lead to the quick spread of the virus.  James Niven, Manchester's Medical Officer of Health at that time, tried to prevent many deaths by advising the city officials to put the city into quarantine and stop the virus from passing from one human to another.  This would have saved many thousands of lives, both in and around the city.  Unfortunately, they ignored him, as there would have been significant monetary loss to them in closing production facilities or cinemas, or even negative cultural effects in closing down the church, for instance (people may have revolted because of that).  In other words, money and culture immediately got in the way of taking a more scientific approach to maximizing health, and many people died as an indirect result.  This is the same situation that we face right now, and this is also why, besides ‘vaccines’, we need to develop the infrastructure as well (prevention and treatment).

But without an integrated infrastructure, social viruses cannot be managed.

As in the case of real viruses, we first need regular ‘social vaccinations’ of people with science  (literacy, relevant generalist education, technological skillfulness, etc.) where possible, but it is imperative that we also need a relevant infrastructure that can maintain a saner society.  Both are crucial, and both are fully dependent on each other.  Throughout all aspects of the infrastructure, we must strive to eliminate the incentive for social viruses to arise.  For instance, providing what people need and want will eliminate the vast majority of homicides; an abundance of partners (the ability to meet more people that are like-minded) can significantly reduce or eliminate jealousy; the removal of monetary profit will eliminate the incentive to lie, cheat and ‘devour’ resources for a personal gain; and the list goes on and on.  There are millions of types of physical health-reducing viruses out there, but there may be billions of mental health-reducing social viruses that we have to deal with.

Keep in mind that it took about 100 years for real vaccines to be widely implemented, and perhaps another 100 years for it to become a common thing, creating an infrastructure to cope with them.  Another interesting aspect is that people feared vaccines, at first.  Since the first vaccine was a weaker form of virus extracted from an infected cow and injected into a human child, people feared that cow features might eventually appear on their bodies.  As a result, there were many anti-vaccination movements and opinionated exaggerations at that time.  This is quite similar to what we are working hard to achieve, and the reactions that some people have about what we propose.  The way people feared that vaccines might cause cow features in people, is the same way people fear today that in such a society that we describe (based on abundance and automation, global society without a need for trade, leaders, laws, and so forth), technology will somehow control their lives or that they might somehow become robots without feelings, or that others will more easily control everyone under a global society.

Another very important aspect is that perhaps, like in the case of real viruses, some social viruses will never disappear since they are ‘airborne’ and are thus hard to deal with, while some others may remain very dangerous.  However, we can call them ‘extinct’ if they do not pose any significant danger to society overall, and we should strive to improve this situation even more.  Thus, many notions that are harmful to oneself and the society may still exist in  such a society, much like those ‘eradicated’ viruses still exist in today’s world, but will be near to 0% as efficient in ‘infecting’ other people or pose a danger to the global society as a whole.

It might take 100 years to implement this kind of world, or maybe it will take 20 or 2000, but we must start to distribute the ‘social vaccine’ and focus on creating the infrastructure.  It may happen in small steps, but this kind of approach (from infrastructure to education) is the only solution we see for creating a sane-enough society that can sustain its sanity, and continue becoming even saner.  When that guy invented the first vaccine in 1796, he had no idea about how the vaccine would be distributed on a world scale or how the infrastructure of cities would evolve to cope with the many types of viruses that exist.  Today, we already have a very solid plan to showcase what the infrastructure can look like, as well as how to cope with social viruses.  Maybe it won’t be that, but it’s the best path forward that we have so far.

Help us cope with social viruses and create a stable, smarter, saner world that we can all enjoy!

Understand the Infrastructure.

Understand the Society.

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Tio
My parents are using TROM-Jaro for the past half year or so. And Linux (Ubuntu or other flavors) for the past 3-4 years or more. They simply need a stable operating system and a way for them to access the Internet without "trading" as much. In truth my first motivation to make a custom Linux OS was to do it for my parents because I wanted them to have a "ready to use" OS that blocks ads and trackers and it is simple enough for them to use. In fact I tested TROM-Jaro with them first, because if they can use it, most people can. They are not at all computer savvy and probably most people are like that, so we need an operating system that ca be used by anyone. They know very well how to keep the system updated now, and because TROM-Jaro has automatic backups before every update then it is easy for me to fix their computers in case an update breaks the system, which never happened so far.

I also installed TROM-Jaro on a half a laptop (that had no screen anymore) and I connected it with a TV so now they have a "smart TV" to watch online whatever they want to watch. I paired that with a cheap Bluetooth remote controller that worked out of the box and so now they have 3 devices with TROM-Jaro.

So, it is super useful that TROM-Jaro is set up for people who don't know much about computers because I make sure my parents don't see ads or are tracked online, have automatic backups and the interface is so easy to use that they can find whatever they need by pressing or clicking one button (the Dash).

The laptops have between 2 and 4 GB of RAM and a simple integrated Intel graphics card, and the TV has 1.6GB of RAM. TROM-Jaro works well on all of them out of the box. Chat image
Tio
Thank you Savadey for the 100 AUD via Paypal and the message "keep up the good work " - Awesome! Lately more and more financial support for TROM which is fantastic! Thank you so much people https://www.tromsite.com/donate/
Tio
Here's a video I edited for Sasha for her campaign :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABbNeEmhMh0 - watch it! it is cool. very. interesting. talks about us too. also a footage with her, me and aaron somewhere there...
Tio
Sasha needs some help to finish a Trade-Free Book about her journey. https://www.gofundme.com/f/big-world-small-sasha-the-book - she will post the book as Trade-Free on her website in digital format.

Sasha has been a great help for TROM for the past 2 years. She helped TROM financially (quite a lot), with proofreading or by spreading the word about TROM and Trade-Free on her blogs, social networks, and she even created a TROM Discussions Youtube stream for a while where she was discussing TROM subjects with new-to-the-project people. Her website, https://www.bigworldsmallsasha.com/ is labelled as Trade-Free.

She is also now part of our small "TROM family" - I (Tio), Aaron and her share a flat that we transformed into our small TROM office (will post videos and photos about this in the following months), and we help each other financially to be able to keep working on these projects. So, any help for Sasha is also a help for TROM ;) - she needs financial help to be able to focus on finishing her book (she already wrote some 70%) - needless to say in the book she talks about TROM too ;).

What is important about what she does is that she reaches new people (people interested in travelling around the world and having this different kind of lifestyle) - these people we could not (or rarely) reach with our projects. Now such people get to also know about TROM.

Big World, Small Sasha!
Tio
Here is a review of TROM-Jaro by Alexio :) - https://www.facebook.com/tromproject/posts/2619863141403328?__tn__=K-R (it is too big to post the entire text on our live) Chat image
Tio
Keep in mind that Manjaro is one of the most well known and used Linux distributions. If they said they may incorporate some of our good ideas into their official Gnome edition, then that's big :)
Tio
We are getting more attention for our TROM-Jaro from Manjaro's community which is fantastic - see here https://forum.manjaro.org/t/trom-jaro-a-trade-free-manjaro-build/93739 - One recent message was very encouraging, comming from a member of the Manjaro's Team: "This distro makes me happy. It's cool that Manjaro has a daughter distro, with clear vision, ethics and style. I'm hoping to borrow some of your good ideas to gnome edition. :) " - He also said he can help with some stuff, which is truly amazing. Imagine if this trade-free idea catches on in the open source community. It could be a fantastic way to make people aware of what creates most of our issues in the society, not only in the open source. Let's see where this leads, but so far this idea with "trade as the source of most problems" and focusing on trade-free goods and services as a "cure" for it, seems to catch on little by little.
Tio
Did a bunch of work for tromsite.com - improved some stuff, fixed some bugs. this site is made of so many many many parts, yet the way it is built it seems like one. is almost like we took cats, dogs and elephants, and created one single creature but you could not tell that this monster is made out of other animals :))
Tio
Ah, and when you download them you download them in multiple video formats + their respective subtitles. We'll work to incorporate any other video we have on tromsite through the Internet Archive.
Tio
Another super cool thing thanks to the trade-free Internet Archive: on the videos page you can now download any series you want form p2p https://www.tromsite.com/videos/ - and everytime we add new content to any of the video series we make, the download links gets updated automatically. Much less work for us! :)
Tio
Now you can get TROM-Jaro iso from both our server and bittorrent https://www.tromjaro.com/install/ - both should work all the time. We use the Internet Archive as the torrent source since they also provide a seedbox so it guarantees peers. We got 631 vies on the manjaro forum for our tromjaro post. And a bunch of people got interested in-it. That's awesome! I hope to find more time to add more apps to tromjaro.com.
Tio
Working on the Fort-Profit Entertainment book by Dima! :)
Tio
So these days we had a TROM-Cast, like we usually do, but this time we discuss about our new trade-free.org project. It got the attention of some people, and new ones participated for the cast challenging the idea. To make it super-mega short, I “created” this path now for “social change” via “trade as the source of most problems”, and some think is not a good idea. I’ll keep it all extremely brief since I already wrote thousand of pages on the topic. Here's the blog I wrote https://www.tiotrom.com/2019/07/why-trade-and-not-scarcity/
Tio
Thank you Jennifer for the 100 Euros donation. Wow! And for the message "Thank you for all that you do! ". :) - https://www.tromsite.com/donate/
Tio
I sent 20 or so emails to several people in the Linux community about tromjaro. Let's see if any pays attention to it.
Sasha
Tio and I have been working very hard on my new site for the last 2 months and now it is finally done! Check it out: https://www.bigworldsmallsasha.com/

It’s a trade-free travel blog that details how you can travel around the world with little money, but the main idea is actually to entice people with travel stories in order to introduce them to the important topics that we discuss here in TROM. So the point is to reach new people :)

These two pages (and a lot of my blogs) include links to TROM material: https://www.bigworldsmallsasha.com/traveltips/ [link src="http://www.bigworldsmallsasha.com/lifestyle/

The"] website was designed by Tio – I can’t thank him enough for the enormous amount of effort he put into my site. Tio is by far the kindest and most genuinely extensional person that I know. And also- genius! :D and very creative. All the photos of my stuff, Polaroid theme and basically everything else on my site was his idea :). And we spent many hours/days/weeks customizing it to make it look like it does now.

I hope you enjoy it :)
Tio
I fixed trade-free.org for mobiles ;)
Tio
Cody: "I use trom-jaro to easily edit videos and maintain multiple systems that help decentralize some of the tools and videos TROM creates! I also use it to host the TROM-Cast weekly and thanks to it's lack of tracking / data harvesting, my computers resources can be freed to do what I WANT =]" Chat image
Tio
Organized TRM Riot a lot since we fuckin' grow :D - we need a room for video, one for tromjaro, one for webdev, and so forth. I love it! Also, Alexio joined the team :) - he organized TROM stuff so neatly and awesome that we need to use his powers! hehe
Tio
David Panart just became a $15 patron! - thank you so much! :) - monthly donations help a lot! https://www.tromsite.com/donate/
Tio
The brilliant Roma is working on something super cool so that anyone can translate the trade-free.org website in a bit. The general idea is this: people have access to a public file on gitlab that contains the english text and all of the links on the page. And they simply translate that. Then trade-free.org can call that page everytime people add the lang after the url, like say trade-free.org/es triggers the ES (spanish) translation. Of course, anyone can use that file + the HTML5 version of the website to host it anywhere. Roma is like Ziad it seems. Two brilliant people who are helping TROM in ways I could not do! :)
Tio
We moved our videos to The Internet Archive :) - a trade-free alternative to youtube which is an abundant service that is based on trades :) - we love the Internet Archive. You can see our new and improved videos page here https://www.tromsite.com/videos/ - now it is way easier to access all of our videos. Unfortunately we don't now why the subtitles are not working right now....we contacted IA...we'll see. We want to also move every other video there. Next step would be to stream via p2p and not even rely on IA. But for now this is the first major step to move away from Youtube and Vimeo ;)
Aaron
TROM-Jaro is my tool to create trade-free things. I use it to translate TROM materials into german, such as videos and audiobooks with the video-editor kdenlive + audacity and books with the partially trade-free app Master PDF Editor. I communicate with humans via Signal, Riot and Thunderbird and I work on my personal website + browse the web with Firefox. All trade-free. Plus I decentralize our materials with easy-to-use apps like webtorrent and the beaker browser. All in all I love tromjaro as it is fast, easy to use and it simply works. The fact that it works on my macbook is even another big plus-point. www.tromjaro.com Chat image
Tio
We'll skip tromcast today. I am too tired :D - will do one next week for sure. I'm working on other stuff too, so I'll be busy these days, especially today
Tio
Thank you Roma for the 86 Euros donation :) and the awesome message:

"Trade-free. org is great from both sides: as an idea and the site itself is amazingly crafted! Kudos to all who was involved. Appreciating all you hard work to release it! A real pleasure to be a part of such dedicated Team! Love all"
Tio
We will start to make these kind of posts about TROM-Jaro :) - from Gia:

"I use TROM-Jaro as my daily drive to browse the internet without being tracked by scripts (at least not as much), without seeing ads, and such. Less trades. I use it to translate TROM materials, read books, watch documentaries, or for digital drawing. https://www.tromjaro.com/" Chat image
Tio
Here are some websites labeled as trade-free by Alexio www.creativitate.cf www.energetica.cf www.echipamente.cf www.instalatii.cf - we need to make this idea spread and have other websites labeled as such.

Alexio's message:

"Some of the reasons to propose these websites as Trade-Free are:

- I am sharing/adapting on these webpages the trade-free content from the TROM projects;

- it is all about open education - http://is.jrc.ec.europa.eu/pages/EAP/OEREU.html ;

- the content on these websites is available under CC Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International. "
Tio
I had to fix some stuff for trade-free.org - so now is 100% downloadable. Before it wasn't. Now even the font we use is downloadable. Also Roma added it to gitlab https://gitlab.com/tromsite/trade-free/trade-free.org - need to be updated with today's updates ;)
Aaron
We released the trade-free website in german: https://www.handelsfrei.org/ - very exciting :)
Tio
We are super close to move to Internet Archive, except the documentary for now. Rafa helps with migrating the subtitles ;) - I have also prepared a text document to explain how one can translate trade-free.org into their own language - I can't manage that myself....too much stuff to manage. So people have to take that as their responsibility and translate and host that page. I'll give them the tools. I may take 1-2 days of work, but is not super complicated. Still need to refine everything then will post on trade-free.org.
Aaron
The video + audiobook "valuable without a value" is now available in german on tromsite.com/de
Tio
We are super close to move all of our videos (except the documentary for now) to Internet Archive. Almost all are already uploaded there and I made a new video page for tromsite that is much much better. We will have better control now over the videos. This year we will give up Vimeo, moving away from trade-based services. We walk the talk boys! :)
Tio
Finally posted about TROM-Jaro on Manjaro forum https://forum.manjaro.org/t/trom-jaro-a-trade-free-manjaro-build/93739 and I will send info about it to others too - distrowatch and some youtubers.
Tio
Now musikwave.com, videoneat.com, tromsite.com, tromjaro.com and tiotrom.com are all labaled (at the bottom of each page) as Trade-Free :) - if you have a project that creates trade-free stuff then you can label it as such and link to https://www.trade-free.org/ - so we can start something interesting and useful. ;)
Tio
Big thanks to the "invisible" (or not so visible) people who support TROM on Liberapay https://liberapay.com/TROM/ and Patreon https://www.patreon.com/trom for the past years. Without them we could not have paid for servers, tools, and time to build TROM and its baby projects. So, thank you so much!
Tio
added trade-free to https://www.tiotrom.com/ and tromjaro.com too - tomorrow i'll add to musikwave and videoneat ;) + make a text to promote tromjaro!
Tio
added trade-free to tromsite.com and removed the links to any other external "thing" like fb or youtube and so forth, because tromsite is tromsite and i dont want to redirect people to these trade-based places :) - purism! hehe
Tio
Join tromcast here https://meet.jit.si/tromcasttradefree - password: tromtrade
Tio
fixed some stuff with tormjaro.com - kinda ready for promoting on manjaro forums and so forth! i am working to add "This is a Trade-Free Project" on all websites: musikwave, tromsite, tiotrom, videoneat, everywhere I can! :)
Tio
Next few days are dedicated to add a trade-free sign on all of my/our websites, linking to trade-free.org. Also fix some bugs with some websites + then I'll create a long post promoting tromjaro.com on open source forums/websites. Tomorrow TROM-Cast about trade-free.org and we'll also talk about TVP.
Tio
And thank you Willy for your monthly 10 Euros Paypal donation! ;)
Tio
Thank you anonymous donor for the 100 Euros donation! https://www.tromsite.com/donate/ :D
Tio
I wanted to post the bellow message on FB too but they won't let me: it is against their "community standards" they say. That's why I don't give much of a fuck about FB. Like we want to share our originally made videos on their platform and they won't let us....fuck them. Not all magnets are "illegal", you stupid!
Tio
And btw, the videos on trade-free.org are streamed from peer-to-peer. They are on no server! :) - they are on people's computers. If you want to help us, seed those videos:

The main video's magnet link is: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:bbe36cb6ba5d6afeb50421a2509a969786710e8e&dn=Trade-Free.mp4&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexplodie.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.empire-js.us%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337&tr=wss%3A%2F%2Ftracker.btorrent.xyz&tr=wss%3A%2F%2Ftracker.fastcast.nz&tr=wss%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openwebtorrent.com

And the logo making video is: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:d66bf00649e889e261782c3a5098f68b68d35a00&dn=Trade-Free+Logo+Making.mp4&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexplodie.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.empire-js.us%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337&tr=wss%3A%2F%2Ftracker.btorrent.xyz&tr=wss%3A%2F%2Ftracker.fastcast.nz&tr=wss%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openwebtorrent.com

Use WebTorrent to seed them, else it won't work. It is simple and you'll help us! Thanks!
Tio
thank you thank you thank you to all who have helped with this site: the idea, the suggestions, the everything!
Tio
https://www.trade-free.org/ is DONE! Check it :D - we will improve on it but this is basically it. We will add translations and we will create a trade-free directory soon :P - sooo so happy is finally here!
Tio
Yeah a bit more work on trade-free.org....but we are getting there....i dont want to get to stressed out by the work I have to do...VN also has some bugs that I need to fix. After we release TF website I need to manage my time better and have some more leisure time for myself and be less stressed out with this work. I am too passionate so is hard for me to not stress out cause I am excited and I want to fix and release!
Tio
Fixed some tromjaro.com stuff and need to fix some tromsite.com stuff....like plugins update that break parts of the website and you only notice after a few weeks....annoying
Tio
We are getting close to release trade-free.org. Is kinda done....maybe today will release. That website will for sure improve in time and we will do a documentary about "trade" that will be posted on the site. But we need to get it out there. We need to link to it. We need to talk about it ;)
Flingafu
I made a video on how to setup your own trade-free WIFI network! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3dY7LmqwPs
Tio
Participate here https://meet.jit.si/tromcastvolunteer and pass is tromcastv
Tio
TROM-Cast about volunteering in 1 and a half hour https://youtu.be/xNNoNvmVMwE
Tio
New FAQ Submitted: Are some people born with genes or biology which makes them to have more chances to become smart in some certain things in life? - answer here https://www.tromsite.com/faq/
Tio
Ok so VideoNeat has some weird bugs that I had to force-solve...i have no idea why those bugs....is the theme apparently...anyways. Is back! We worked today a lot on trade-free.org. Ziad is such a great help. Great guy! Main thing I need to add to trade-free is the text (which is kinda done) and implement translations (which can be difficult). Also, seen we will have double the storage and power for our server where we store all of our websites. I'll let you know. Super excited!
Tio
For the past many hours I'm trying to fix some videoneat design weird bugs...dont know wtf happened there but some pages are broken...
Tio
Patreon: "MayBritt just edited their pledge from $30 to $50." - Thank you so so much for your ongoing support! https://www.tromsite.com/donate/
Seb
New TROM Poem out (made this one 3 years ago, crazy that it's been this long) - 'The Ugliness of Beauty': https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG60mUXDirFbCT4SaumWpyA
Tio
Ok, so, I tested some video-decentralization options.

1. So, the ideal solution would be using webtorrent + amara in a popup. Meaning, videos to be streamed from our computers (p2p) and if we can to embed them with the amara player so all subtitles are added automatically. If possible to do that in a popup would be fantastic - click and play. Webtorrent streaming is working (we tested) - though there are some downsides...but manageable. This streaming option is the perfect one since we won't need any streaming service/hosting. We have 80GB of video files already and we are growing every week in size, so no hosting plan is enough for us in the long run. The problem is how to add it in a popup and deal with the subtitles....this is super problematic. As soon as we make trade-free.org work perfectly well with this technology we could implement to tromsite.com. Also, to videoneat.com (likely) - imagine people being able to click and play any torrent file from videoneat!!! That would be my dream!

2. Another solution is to use the video files directly (like mp4 or webm) from either our server or the internet archive servers. From our server is safer cause we have 100% control over them, but that would mean upgrading our server and will costs some money and these people are super charlatans - they say "oh you can upgrade to $40 a month for double the space and power"....however they don't mention that it means ONLY if you accept a 3 year "contact" with them for the plan....else costs a lot more....also am not sure how well the server will handle video streaming. Then we have to integrate to amara if possible....

3. Directly using the Internet Archive's player. Their player is not that great but is the easiest solution right now tho we will have to add the subtitles manually to it. It is the best vimeo replacement for sure.

Damn is a lot of work and is not that easy.... :( - and I have so much stuff to work on...
Tio
So today I got really pissed off at that plugin giving me the middle finger and I looked more and more into decentralizing trom videos. for now we will upload all trom materials to the internet archive and i will probably replace all videos on tromsite with those. Already did for the trailer on the homepage https://www.tromsite.com/ - it streams from the internet archive. Let's see if the url is persistent. I will do that first then try to stream from p2p. So far I love the IA.
Tio
aaand is back! we'll look into internet archive and the like for now...we'll see...so many things to do ....