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Behaving: From Genes to Gender

CATEGORY / Behavior TAGS / genes and behavior, human nature, mental illness, TRANSSEXUAL, TRANSSEXUALS AUTHOR / Tio DATE / 18/04/2015

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Values.

First of all, who are you?

You might say your name, job, or whatever else you like. You will likely try to find yourself within a bunch of words whose meanings you have learned from parents, school, friends, the Internet and so on. You learned what a job is, what morality is, what is good or bad, beautiful or ugly, acceptable or not, violent or relaxing.

One interesting, but disturbing, example of how important environment is in developing your personality and values is feral children: kids raised in extreme environments.

Genie was devoid of social contact from birth. When she was discovered ten years later, she was so different from a normal human being that she was considered “mentally ill,” although she had no brain damage whatsoever. She couldn't talk or walk properly. She showed no feelings of empathy, morality, objectivity, sociability, and so on - behaviours thought to be normal and inborn to all humans.

There are other cases, such as a girl raised more among dogs than humans so that she behaved more like the dogs than humans.

These examples are not cases in which the children have brain damage. The examples show not only that human values come from the environment, but that even one’s walk, facial expressions, or body language are influenced by one’s experiences. You can watch these two documentaries and read more about this topic.

Even tiny differences in the environment can cause huge changes in behavior. One example is of two identical twins, one of whom is stung by a bee at age 4. That one small event over his extended life may make him fearful of all insects for the rest of his life, causing “insectophobia”. This kind of event is one reason people have very different personalities. Their life experiences are always unique.

This is why people looking at the Moon have so many different reactions to it: some will photograph it as art, some will not care, and others may cry with amazement. So, even when we see the same thing, we have different interpretations of it because of personal experiences--which shape our values.

Gender.

You may think there are only two genders, male and female, but you would be mistaken from both a cultural and biological perspective. There are people whose biology doesn’t permit a distinct identification as male or female. It is called intersex.

Watch this documentary or learn more about it here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_gender , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex.

Cultural gender is a different thing though, and depending on the culture, there may be more than simply female or male genders,. We know that even those two differ: there are many “masculine” people who are very different from each other. In India (Hirja), Nepal, Pakistan, and Samoa people accept a third gender as being legal. Fa'afafine, for example, are boys raised as girls in random fashion who behave like women because of that. (Fa'afafine - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fa'afafine)

So the environment even changes what we call “gender”.

Taste and color perception.

Within the scientific community, there is no longer any doubt that taste is mostly created by what is around the “thing” you taste: the color, the restaurant, the name of the food, the shape of it, or whether it is soft or crispy.

Even for those with a different biology, such as more taste buds, taste preferences are shaped by their experiences. There are people who wouldn't eat mushrooms, but because of different circumstances, end up loving them.

Watch this documentary for more about taste.

Color perception is another great example of how the language you speak makes you see colors in different ways. See this 7-minute video showing a great experiment on that.

And if it influences sight in this powerful way, what else may language influence?

Genes.

You often hear that there is a gene that makes people violent, alcoholic, gay and so on.

But is there? Can a gene lead to such complex, culturally evolved behaviours? We know indeed that genes determine your eye color or how susceptible you are to certain diseases. But, can genes lead to various types of behaviours?

Consider the most often cited cases:

Violence. There is a gene called the “warrior gene” ( a variation of monoamine oxidase-a gene) which supposedly makes people more aggressive and violent.

I remember a documentary by BBC called The Warrior Gene in which they investigated just that. The reporter, a cool, calm guy, finds out at the end of the documentary that he has that gene and his mother tells him that he was lucky because she raised him very well. There is a point there. Even if you see aggression in mice with that gene variation, it doesn´t mean it applies to humans. And it doesn't mean, even if it does apply to humans, that they will become aggressive or that this is the cause of violence.

Are most people with this gene violent? If yes, what do you call violence? Verbal violence? Being rude may be seen as violent to some, while dancing around naked may seem aggressive and dangerous to others. Putting someone in debt for the necessities of life so they can never pay it off - even with a lifetime of laborious work - may also be considered violent. So, even the definition of violence or aggression is culturally-based. Therefore, even when the experiment seems to suggest something, it is often extremely vague.

Let´s suppose we get some broad definition of aggressive behaviour and find a pattern in those ”warriors”. If those people can control their behaviour through mental hospitals, anger management sessions, etc, then the gene is less or not important at all.

Think of Tourette’s syndrome. Basically it causes people to behave in an uncontrollable way. They can't control some of their body or language actions, resulting in different types of tics. Some curse, some engage in small rituals before doing something else, some whistle, and others can't even talk because of it. It is thought that a high level of dopamine causes their brain to trigger impulsively, similar to being electrically over-charged, and this causes their uncontrollable movements. You may want to curse, but you can hold it in - they can’t. It’s like the one second before you sneeze when you can't do much to stop it.

It is thought, though with little evidence, that Tourette’s syndrome is genetically transmitted like the Warrior Gene. We can see both as genes making people behave in a certain way. But here is the thing: we cannot say people with Tourette’s are violent, aggressive, funny, or dangerous, etc, because the dopamine makes their thoughts have tiny explosions. Rather, their thoughts are created by their experiences. Thus some may curse in Spanish, some in Japanese, some may play drums better, some may just laugh, and so on.

So the biology of Tourette’s syndrome impacts people´s body (brain) but that doesn't imply that it also makes them violent or aggressive in any way, or untruthful, funny, stupid and so on. It varies from case to case depending on how they’re raised and their experiences. In the same sense, I find it hard to say there is a violence gene. There may be a gene that makes your muscles more tense, increases the level of dopamine in your brain, and so on, but the end result is dependent on environment as in the Tourette’s syndrome example.

In both cases,Tourette’s and the Warrior Gene, the same patterns of behaviour, the symptoms, are found in people without those genes, thus making the gene less, or not at all important, even if it exists.

There are people with frontal lobe damage from mutation or accident who don’t feel emotions like others do. It is a bit tricky to explain, but imagine someone crying or being afraid, and you being unable to understand how he or she feels.

Can we say such people are predisposed to being murderers? Are they going to kill other people just because they do not understand how pain feels? Of course not. One guy with this problem talked about it and said he understands but cannot feel. But this won't make him a murderer! He sees someone crying and, although he can’t feel what that person feels, he understands that the other person feels sad. He has been educated on how to react to such a situation, as you have.

Alcoholism.

If a gene makes you an alcoholic, I may have it, but since I don't drink alcohol, I don't know and this is the point I want to make.

What people say about an alcoholism gene is that some people react differently to alcohol than others at a biological level. It is similar to how you react to certain drugs or foods. They have shown that people with this gene tend not to be affected by alcohol as much as others. So Raul, having this gene, can drink 5 beers and not feel dizzy. So far it says nothing about making Raul an alcoholic, and this is true because Raul regulates how much he drinks.

Having that gene does not mean you will become an alcoholic, just that your body reacts differently to alcohol than others.

There are some who do not taste sweets very much. Can we say they are diabetic, or even predisposed to diabetes? Of course not. Even people genetically predisposed to diabetes, but with no taste for sweets, are not more likely to develop diabetes if they eat very little sweets.

My mother is predisposed to diabetes and she likes sugary foods, but she eats only sugar-free foods so as not to endanger her health. She is doing that because she knows about it and has made an educated decision.

So you see, even this kind of gene does not determine behaviour. At most, they can influence things in the same way that having a poor olfactory sense may let you sniff dangerous gases. But there are already dangerous gases that your nose can't even sense, though you know to stay away from them.

Yes, you may have a physical condition that you can learn about and deal with. IT does not control you and with understanding, it is you who are dealing with IT.

There is a gene mutation which causes people to have no sense of touch. A girl with this condition was looking out the window when a smell of burnt flesh caught her attention. She realised after a few minutes she was standing on a hot radiator. She was careful from that moment on.

Gay.

The notion of a “gay gene” is a controversial topic, but no gay gene has been isolated so far. Read more about it at Wikipedia: “The relationship between biology and sexual orientation is a subject of research. A simple and singular determinant for sexual orientation has not been conclusively demonstrated—various studies point to different, even conflicting positions” - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation). Also read this http://www.narth.com/docs/istheregene.html or any scientific paper on genes. You will never find the “gay gene”.

But as for other causes, the research is very vague and we may wonder what is a homosexual?  Maybe there is sexual attraction in general, and a “gay gene” is one of the manifestations of it.

We know people are sexually attracted to lots and lots of things: animals, toys, big breasts, hair, long feet, children, sounds, old people, dead people, some get sexually excited over fires, electronics, and so on. It is so diverse that if we were to find a name for all of them and a corresponding gene, it would seem completely crazy.

What makes gays so special then? To be honest I have no clue. I do not understand what they are attracted to specifically, but I don't understand myself either in regards to what aspects of a girl are attractive to me and why.

Knowing that what is attractive today wasn't attractive hundreds, even just tens of years ago, we can reasonably conclude that culture impacts what we find attractive and what not.

We see today guys who look very much like girls, and yet they are not gay. And also the opposite - girls who look and behave in a masculine manner. There is a mix of behaviours that cannot be properly defined. There are people who are transformed into gays or lesbians, or other genders as mentioned at the beginning of the article, so if that can be created by the environment alone, then this is very important. It means that the gay gene may play no significant role even if it exists.

There was a video that circulated online and made a noise among people. It was a sexy women, naked, filmed in a bathtub acting in a very seductive way. First the face, then the camera went down slowly to the breasts, and then continued lower. At this point “straight” people were excited and attracted by the women, but gays not at all. But when it goes further down, that “female” had a penis. She was a he, a transwoman, a guy who looked like a women but with breast implants. At this point the straight guys were deeply disgusted. A penis ruined their entire week, but made the gays happy after all. 🙂

The entire story is very relevant.

If we think about it, the guy who looked like a woman was attractive for straight guys, and it was only a visual or configuration allure. The only problem was the penis, the male sexual organ. What if she/he had a sex change operation as thousands do each year? Straight guys could have been deeply in love with “him” and gays would be disgusted.

Such scenarios happen many times and prove how sexual attraction can be purely visual, and that what is attractive can be rendered by the culture.

Therefore when a gay person likes another gay man, he likes the present gay man, the visual perception of him, and not the gays of the 16th century. That means they are influenced by the culture and the environment they are exposed to. This imposes the configuration for the sexual preferences.

Gay-like behaviour in animals seems to be an argument for gay being natural, but there are serious problems with that theory.

First of all, there are plenty of “abnormal” sexual behaviours in animals, not only attraction for the same sex. You can see tons of youtube videos of turtles trying to have sex with shoes. (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=turtle+having+sex+with+a+shoe&oq=turtle+having+sex+with+a+shoe&gs_l=youtube.3...8966.12020.0.12116.22.22.0.0.0.0.156.1853.8j13.21.0...0.0...1ac.1.11.youtube.nJVO4oczcpA). Can we put us “in their shoes” and see this act as a manifest of the shoe-turtle gene? Or is it better to see what makes the turtle attracted to that shoe in the first place? It seems to be visual so we have to investigate from this point on.

This is how you do science in my opinion. Same with gays, lesbians, heterosexuals, normal people and so on. If we are to understand what makes people attracted to whatever they are attracted to, we should carefully investigate it. If the turtle was blind, it probably wouldn’t have tried to have sex with that shoe in the first place.

You should ask yourself what made you attracted to girls if this is your preference. Do you remember? Because I personally don´t. It is a mystery to me. It just happened at an age when I could understand the cultural difference between boys and girls. And this is the key.

The blind gay.

I read an article about a boy blind from birth who did not like to play with boys because he was overweight and was afraid of falling down. Because of that, he ended up playing with girls and eventually behaving like them. “I much preferred sitting and reading a braille book, or talking to the girls. I even learned to bounce a ball, and learned some of the rhymes the girls would say while playing ball or jumping rope.”

But he was eventually rejected by the girls: “I was teased unmercifully, and soon, even the girls got tired of playing with me, and so I mostly stayed alone, reading, and listening to what was going on around me.” Could that have been the moment that made him attracted to boys?

He doesn't claim that but it may be so because, as he says, he did not know at that age about the difference between boys and girls: “All the boys were interested in sports and rough games. I wasn't. Some talked about girls, but because I was blind from birth, and because nobody ever talked to me about sex, I had no idea what was being discussed. I am ashamed to say that I didn't even know the difference between girls and boys, except that girls were usually nicer to me, and yet, I felt a strange feeling when hugging a male student.”

So he did not know the difference between boys and girls, only that at a cultural level, girls are nice and boys are tough. And then he was rejected by girls and later, he started to be attracted by what he understood as being boys.

Of course it is my interpretation of the whole story, but please read the article he wrote and draw your own conclusions. http://www.bentvoices.org/bentvoices/feinstein-blindandgay.htm

You should keep in mind that all those behaviour examples people say are gene-driven can be triggered by environment alone. So even if these genes are ever isolated, if people with no such genes show behaviour similar to those who have them, then those genes are relatively less important, or not important at all, and we should take a look at the environment.

We could have ditched the entire article for this last point because it is completely relevant and as scientific as it can get.

  1. You are your neuro-connections and there is no doubt about that. What you like, what you accept, what you recognize, even your senses from pain to sight, are influenced by these neuro-connections. This is why a person with Alzheimer’s disease forgets his name, or doesn't know how to make a coffee anymore. Parts of his/her neuro-connections are negatively affected.
  1. We also know as a fact that even the act of thinking changes the physical structure of your brain. New experiences shape your brain, your neuro-connections. Even if you are born with a specific neuro-connection the brain is so plastic, it can and eventually will change. This is why even genetically identical twins have different neuro-connections. Watch this brilliant TED presentation with a full explanation of that. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA7GwKXfJB0

Ok, so, from A + B = you are your experiences. Simple.
People are so different from each other, yet very similar in many ways. But both cases are shaped by different or similar experiences.

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Tio
My parents are using TROM-Jaro for the past half year or so. And Linux (Ubuntu or other flavors) for the past 3-4 years or more. They simply need a stable operating system and a way for them to access the Internet without "trading" as much. In truth my first motivation to make a custom Linux OS was to do it for my parents because I wanted them to have a "ready to use" OS that blocks ads and trackers and it is simple enough for them to use. In fact I tested TROM-Jaro with them first, because if they can use it, most people can. They are not at all computer savvy and probably most people are like that, so we need an operating system that ca be used by anyone. They know very well how to keep the system updated now, and because TROM-Jaro has automatic backups before every update then it is easy for me to fix their computers in case an update breaks the system, which never happened so far.

I also installed TROM-Jaro on a half a laptop (that had no screen anymore) and I connected it with a TV so now they have a "smart TV" to watch online whatever they want to watch. I paired that with a cheap Bluetooth remote controller that worked out of the box and so now they have 3 devices with TROM-Jaro.

So, it is super useful that TROM-Jaro is set up for people who don't know much about computers because I make sure my parents don't see ads or are tracked online, have automatic backups and the interface is so easy to use that they can find whatever they need by pressing or clicking one button (the Dash).

The laptops have between 2 and 4 GB of RAM and a simple integrated Intel graphics card, and the TV has 1.6GB of RAM. TROM-Jaro works well on all of them out of the box. Chat image
Tio
Thank you Savadey for the 100 AUD via Paypal and the message "keep up the good work " - Awesome! Lately more and more financial support for TROM which is fantastic! Thank you so much people https://www.tromsite.com/donate/
Tio
Here's a video I edited for Sasha for her campaign :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABbNeEmhMh0 - watch it! it is cool. very. interesting. talks about us too. also a footage with her, me and aaron somewhere there...
Tio
Sasha needs some help to finish a Trade-Free Book about her journey. https://www.gofundme.com/f/big-world-small-sasha-the-book - she will post the book as Trade-Free on her website in digital format.

Sasha has been a great help for TROM for the past 2 years. She helped TROM financially (quite a lot), with proofreading or by spreading the word about TROM and Trade-Free on her blogs, social networks, and she even created a TROM Discussions Youtube stream for a while where she was discussing TROM subjects with new-to-the-project people. Her website, https://www.bigworldsmallsasha.com/ is labelled as Trade-Free.

She is also now part of our small "TROM family" - I (Tio), Aaron and her share a flat that we transformed into our small TROM office (will post videos and photos about this in the following months), and we help each other financially to be able to keep working on these projects. So, any help for Sasha is also a help for TROM ;) - she needs financial help to be able to focus on finishing her book (she already wrote some 70%) - needless to say in the book she talks about TROM too ;).

What is important about what she does is that she reaches new people (people interested in travelling around the world and having this different kind of lifestyle) - these people we could not (or rarely) reach with our projects. Now such people get to also know about TROM.

Big World, Small Sasha!
Tio
Here is a review of TROM-Jaro by Alexio :) - https://www.facebook.com/tromproject/posts/2619863141403328?__tn__=K-R (it is too big to post the entire text on our live) Chat image
Tio
Keep in mind that Manjaro is one of the most well known and used Linux distributions. If they said they may incorporate some of our good ideas into their official Gnome edition, then that's big :)
Tio
We are getting more attention for our TROM-Jaro from Manjaro's community which is fantastic - see here https://forum.manjaro.org/t/trom-jaro-a-trade-free-manjaro-build/93739 - One recent message was very encouraging, comming from a member of the Manjaro's Team: "This distro makes me happy. It's cool that Manjaro has a daughter distro, with clear vision, ethics and style. I'm hoping to borrow some of your good ideas to gnome edition. :) " - He also said he can help with some stuff, which is truly amazing. Imagine if this trade-free idea catches on in the open source community. It could be a fantastic way to make people aware of what creates most of our issues in the society, not only in the open source. Let's see where this leads, but so far this idea with "trade as the source of most problems" and focusing on trade-free goods and services as a "cure" for it, seems to catch on little by little.
Tio
Did a bunch of work for tromsite.com - improved some stuff, fixed some bugs. this site is made of so many many many parts, yet the way it is built it seems like one. is almost like we took cats, dogs and elephants, and created one single creature but you could not tell that this monster is made out of other animals :))
Tio
Ah, and when you download them you download them in multiple video formats + their respective subtitles. We'll work to incorporate any other video we have on tromsite through the Internet Archive.
Tio
Another super cool thing thanks to the trade-free Internet Archive: on the videos page you can now download any series you want form p2p https://www.tromsite.com/videos/ - and everytime we add new content to any of the video series we make, the download links gets updated automatically. Much less work for us! :)
Tio
Now you can get TROM-Jaro iso from both our server and bittorrent https://www.tromjaro.com/install/ - both should work all the time. We use the Internet Archive as the torrent source since they also provide a seedbox so it guarantees peers. We got 631 vies on the manjaro forum for our tromjaro post. And a bunch of people got interested in-it. That's awesome! I hope to find more time to add more apps to tromjaro.com.
Tio
Working on the Fort-Profit Entertainment book by Dima! :)
Tio
So these days we had a TROM-Cast, like we usually do, but this time we discuss about our new trade-free.org project. It got the attention of some people, and new ones participated for the cast challenging the idea. To make it super-mega short, I “created” this path now for “social change” via “trade as the source of most problems”, and some think is not a good idea. I’ll keep it all extremely brief since I already wrote thousand of pages on the topic. Here's the blog I wrote https://www.tiotrom.com/2019/07/why-trade-and-not-scarcity/
Tio
Thank you Jennifer for the 100 Euros donation. Wow! And for the message "Thank you for all that you do! ". :) - https://www.tromsite.com/donate/
Tio
I sent 20 or so emails to several people in the Linux community about tromjaro. Let's see if any pays attention to it.
Sasha
Tio and I have been working very hard on my new site for the last 2 months and now it is finally done! Check it out: https://www.bigworldsmallsasha.com/

It’s a trade-free travel blog that details how you can travel around the world with little money, but the main idea is actually to entice people with travel stories in order to introduce them to the important topics that we discuss here in TROM. So the point is to reach new people :)

These two pages (and a lot of my blogs) include links to TROM material: https://www.bigworldsmallsasha.com/traveltips/ [link src="http://www.bigworldsmallsasha.com/lifestyle/

The"] website was designed by Tio – I can’t thank him enough for the enormous amount of effort he put into my site. Tio is by far the kindest and most genuinely extensional person that I know. And also- genius! :D and very creative. All the photos of my stuff, Polaroid theme and basically everything else on my site was his idea :). And we spent many hours/days/weeks customizing it to make it look like it does now.

I hope you enjoy it :)
Tio
I fixed trade-free.org for mobiles ;)
Tio
Cody: "I use trom-jaro to easily edit videos and maintain multiple systems that help decentralize some of the tools and videos TROM creates! I also use it to host the TROM-Cast weekly and thanks to it's lack of tracking / data harvesting, my computers resources can be freed to do what I WANT =]" Chat image
Tio
Organized TRM Riot a lot since we fuckin' grow :D - we need a room for video, one for tromjaro, one for webdev, and so forth. I love it! Also, Alexio joined the team :) - he organized TROM stuff so neatly and awesome that we need to use his powers! hehe
Tio
David Panart just became a $15 patron! - thank you so much! :) - monthly donations help a lot! https://www.tromsite.com/donate/
Tio
The brilliant Roma is working on something super cool so that anyone can translate the trade-free.org website in a bit. The general idea is this: people have access to a public file on gitlab that contains the english text and all of the links on the page. And they simply translate that. Then trade-free.org can call that page everytime people add the lang after the url, like say trade-free.org/es triggers the ES (spanish) translation. Of course, anyone can use that file + the HTML5 version of the website to host it anywhere. Roma is like Ziad it seems. Two brilliant people who are helping TROM in ways I could not do! :)
Tio
We moved our videos to The Internet Archive :) - a trade-free alternative to youtube which is an abundant service that is based on trades :) - we love the Internet Archive. You can see our new and improved videos page here https://www.tromsite.com/videos/ - now it is way easier to access all of our videos. Unfortunately we don't now why the subtitles are not working right now....we contacted IA...we'll see. We want to also move every other video there. Next step would be to stream via p2p and not even rely on IA. But for now this is the first major step to move away from Youtube and Vimeo ;)
Aaron
TROM-Jaro is my tool to create trade-free things. I use it to translate TROM materials into german, such as videos and audiobooks with the video-editor kdenlive + audacity and books with the partially trade-free app Master PDF Editor. I communicate with humans via Signal, Riot and Thunderbird and I work on my personal website + browse the web with Firefox. All trade-free. Plus I decentralize our materials with easy-to-use apps like webtorrent and the beaker browser. All in all I love tromjaro as it is fast, easy to use and it simply works. The fact that it works on my macbook is even another big plus-point. www.tromjaro.com Chat image
Tio
We'll skip tromcast today. I am too tired :D - will do one next week for sure. I'm working on other stuff too, so I'll be busy these days, especially today
Tio
Thank you Roma for the 86 Euros donation :) and the awesome message:

"Trade-free. org is great from both sides: as an idea and the site itself is amazingly crafted! Kudos to all who was involved. Appreciating all you hard work to release it! A real pleasure to be a part of such dedicated Team! Love all"
Tio
We will start to make these kind of posts about TROM-Jaro :) - from Gia:

"I use TROM-Jaro as my daily drive to browse the internet without being tracked by scripts (at least not as much), without seeing ads, and such. Less trades. I use it to translate TROM materials, read books, watch documentaries, or for digital drawing. https://www.tromjaro.com/" Chat image
Tio
Here are some websites labeled as trade-free by Alexio www.creativitate.cf www.energetica.cf www.echipamente.cf www.instalatii.cf - we need to make this idea spread and have other websites labeled as such.

Alexio's message:

"Some of the reasons to propose these websites as Trade-Free are:

- I am sharing/adapting on these webpages the trade-free content from the TROM projects;

- it is all about open education - http://is.jrc.ec.europa.eu/pages/EAP/OEREU.html ;

- the content on these websites is available under CC Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International. "
Tio
I had to fix some stuff for trade-free.org - so now is 100% downloadable. Before it wasn't. Now even the font we use is downloadable. Also Roma added it to gitlab https://gitlab.com/tromsite/trade-free/trade-free.org - need to be updated with today's updates ;)
Aaron
We released the trade-free website in german: https://www.handelsfrei.org/ - very exciting :)
Tio
We are super close to move to Internet Archive, except the documentary for now. Rafa helps with migrating the subtitles ;) - I have also prepared a text document to explain how one can translate trade-free.org into their own language - I can't manage that myself....too much stuff to manage. So people have to take that as their responsibility and translate and host that page. I'll give them the tools. I may take 1-2 days of work, but is not super complicated. Still need to refine everything then will post on trade-free.org.
Aaron
The video + audiobook "valuable without a value" is now available in german on tromsite.com/de
Tio
We are super close to move all of our videos (except the documentary for now) to Internet Archive. Almost all are already uploaded there and I made a new video page for tromsite that is much much better. We will have better control now over the videos. This year we will give up Vimeo, moving away from trade-based services. We walk the talk boys! :)
Tio
Finally posted about TROM-Jaro on Manjaro forum https://forum.manjaro.org/t/trom-jaro-a-trade-free-manjaro-build/93739 and I will send info about it to others too - distrowatch and some youtubers.
Tio
Now musikwave.com, videoneat.com, tromsite.com, tromjaro.com and tiotrom.com are all labaled (at the bottom of each page) as Trade-Free :) - if you have a project that creates trade-free stuff then you can label it as such and link to https://www.trade-free.org/ - so we can start something interesting and useful. ;)
Tio
Big thanks to the "invisible" (or not so visible) people who support TROM on Liberapay https://liberapay.com/TROM/ and Patreon https://www.patreon.com/trom for the past years. Without them we could not have paid for servers, tools, and time to build TROM and its baby projects. So, thank you so much!
Tio
added trade-free to https://www.tiotrom.com/ and tromjaro.com too - tomorrow i'll add to musikwave and videoneat ;) + make a text to promote tromjaro!
Tio
added trade-free to tromsite.com and removed the links to any other external "thing" like fb or youtube and so forth, because tromsite is tromsite and i dont want to redirect people to these trade-based places :) - purism! hehe
Tio
Join tromcast here https://meet.jit.si/tromcasttradefree - password: tromtrade
Tio
fixed some stuff with tormjaro.com - kinda ready for promoting on manjaro forums and so forth! i am working to add "This is a Trade-Free Project" on all websites: musikwave, tromsite, tiotrom, videoneat, everywhere I can! :)
Tio
Next few days are dedicated to add a trade-free sign on all of my/our websites, linking to trade-free.org. Also fix some bugs with some websites + then I'll create a long post promoting tromjaro.com on open source forums/websites. Tomorrow TROM-Cast about trade-free.org and we'll also talk about TVP.
Tio
And thank you Willy for your monthly 10 Euros Paypal donation! ;)
Tio
Thank you anonymous donor for the 100 Euros donation! https://www.tromsite.com/donate/ :D
Tio
I wanted to post the bellow message on FB too but they won't let me: it is against their "community standards" they say. That's why I don't give much of a fuck about FB. Like we want to share our originally made videos on their platform and they won't let us....fuck them. Not all magnets are "illegal", you stupid!
Tio
And btw, the videos on trade-free.org are streamed from peer-to-peer. They are on no server! :) - they are on people's computers. If you want to help us, seed those videos:

The main video's magnet link is: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:bbe36cb6ba5d6afeb50421a2509a969786710e8e&dn=Trade-Free.mp4&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexplodie.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.empire-js.us%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337&tr=wss%3A%2F%2Ftracker.btorrent.xyz&tr=wss%3A%2F%2Ftracker.fastcast.nz&tr=wss%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openwebtorrent.com

And the logo making video is: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:d66bf00649e889e261782c3a5098f68b68d35a00&dn=Trade-Free+Logo+Making.mp4&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexplodie.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.empire-js.us%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337&tr=wss%3A%2F%2Ftracker.btorrent.xyz&tr=wss%3A%2F%2Ftracker.fastcast.nz&tr=wss%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openwebtorrent.com

Use WebTorrent to seed them, else it won't work. It is simple and you'll help us! Thanks!
Tio
thank you thank you thank you to all who have helped with this site: the idea, the suggestions, the everything!
Tio
https://www.trade-free.org/ is DONE! Check it :D - we will improve on it but this is basically it. We will add translations and we will create a trade-free directory soon :P - sooo so happy is finally here!
Tio
Yeah a bit more work on trade-free.org....but we are getting there....i dont want to get to stressed out by the work I have to do...VN also has some bugs that I need to fix. After we release TF website I need to manage my time better and have some more leisure time for myself and be less stressed out with this work. I am too passionate so is hard for me to not stress out cause I am excited and I want to fix and release!
Tio
Fixed some tromjaro.com stuff and need to fix some tromsite.com stuff....like plugins update that break parts of the website and you only notice after a few weeks....annoying
Tio
We are getting close to release trade-free.org. Is kinda done....maybe today will release. That website will for sure improve in time and we will do a documentary about "trade" that will be posted on the site. But we need to get it out there. We need to link to it. We need to talk about it ;)
Flingafu
I made a video on how to setup your own trade-free WIFI network! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3dY7LmqwPs
Tio
Participate here https://meet.jit.si/tromcastvolunteer and pass is tromcastv
Tio
TROM-Cast about volunteering in 1 and a half hour https://youtu.be/xNNoNvmVMwE
Tio
New FAQ Submitted: Are some people born with genes or biology which makes them to have more chances to become smart in some certain things in life? - answer here https://www.tromsite.com/faq/
Tio
Ok so VideoNeat has some weird bugs that I had to force-solve...i have no idea why those bugs....is the theme apparently...anyways. Is back! We worked today a lot on trade-free.org. Ziad is such a great help. Great guy! Main thing I need to add to trade-free is the text (which is kinda done) and implement translations (which can be difficult). Also, seen we will have double the storage and power for our server where we store all of our websites. I'll let you know. Super excited!
Tio
For the past many hours I'm trying to fix some videoneat design weird bugs...dont know wtf happened there but some pages are broken...
Tio
Patreon: "MayBritt just edited their pledge from $30 to $50." - Thank you so so much for your ongoing support! https://www.tromsite.com/donate/
Seb
New TROM Poem out (made this one 3 years ago, crazy that it's been this long) - 'The Ugliness of Beauty': https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG60mUXDirFbCT4SaumWpyA
Tio
Ok, so, I tested some video-decentralization options.

1. So, the ideal solution would be using webtorrent + amara in a popup. Meaning, videos to be streamed from our computers (p2p) and if we can to embed them with the amara player so all subtitles are added automatically. If possible to do that in a popup would be fantastic - click and play. Webtorrent streaming is working (we tested) - though there are some downsides...but manageable. This streaming option is the perfect one since we won't need any streaming service/hosting. We have 80GB of video files already and we are growing every week in size, so no hosting plan is enough for us in the long run. The problem is how to add it in a popup and deal with the subtitles....this is super problematic. As soon as we make trade-free.org work perfectly well with this technology we could implement to tromsite.com. Also, to videoneat.com (likely) - imagine people being able to click and play any torrent file from videoneat!!! That would be my dream!

2. Another solution is to use the video files directly (like mp4 or webm) from either our server or the internet archive servers. From our server is safer cause we have 100% control over them, but that would mean upgrading our server and will costs some money and these people are super charlatans - they say "oh you can upgrade to $40 a month for double the space and power"....however they don't mention that it means ONLY if you accept a 3 year "contact" with them for the plan....else costs a lot more....also am not sure how well the server will handle video streaming. Then we have to integrate to amara if possible....

3. Directly using the Internet Archive's player. Their player is not that great but is the easiest solution right now tho we will have to add the subtitles manually to it. It is the best vimeo replacement for sure.

Damn is a lot of work and is not that easy.... :( - and I have so much stuff to work on...
Tio
So today I got really pissed off at that plugin giving me the middle finger and I looked more and more into decentralizing trom videos. for now we will upload all trom materials to the internet archive and i will probably replace all videos on tromsite with those. Already did for the trailer on the homepage https://www.tromsite.com/ - it streams from the internet archive. Let's see if the url is persistent. I will do that first then try to stream from p2p. So far I love the IA.
Tio
aaand is back! we'll look into internet archive and the like for now...we'll see...so many things to do ....